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Old 03-01-2005, 04:47 PM
PotatoStew PotatoStew is offline
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Default ATo SB defense -- good or sloppy?

Party 2/4, 9 handed. Second hand at the table, no reads. I'm in the SB with ATo.

Preflop: Folded to CO, who raises. Button folds. I call, BB calls.

Flop: 624 rainbow

I check, BB checks. CO bets, I raise. BB folds, CO 3-bets, I call.

Turn: 3

I check, CO bets. There's now about $28 in the pot. I figure I have four outs to a 5 (which I now realize only splits the pot -- didn't catch that during the hand, but I'm not sure it matters in this instance), 3 outs to pair my Ace, which I think may be good, and I'll give myself 1 out for pairing my Ten (3 chances to do it, but there's a good possibility it may not be good). That's about 8 outs -- roughly 5 to 1, and I'm getting about 7 to 1 on the pot, so I call.

River: A

I bet, CO calls.

Feedback on all streets is appreciated.
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Old 03-01-2005, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: ATo SB defense -- good or sloppy?

i think you need to 3-bet out of the small blind here.
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Old 03-01-2005, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: ATo SB defense -- good or sloppy?

I'm just learning about blind stealing and defense, but this is the first thing I thought as well. I've been incorporating some of the things I've read, and I've even had the CO fold PF to my 3 bet with a hand like this.
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Old 03-01-2005, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: ATo SB defense -- good or sloppy?

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i think you need to 3-bet out of the small blind here.

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yea, if i'm gonna defend my blinds in these games, i think 3-betting is better than calling.
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Old 03-01-2005, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: ATo SB defense -- good or sloppy?

I noticed you're check-raising the flop with ace high. You'll have a lot more success with ace high against one player rather than two. Three bet pre-flop and lead the flop.
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Old 03-01-2005, 04:53 PM
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i think you need to 3-bet out of the small blind here.

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Old 03-01-2005, 04:53 PM
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Default Re: ATo SB defense -- good or sloppy?

me too, cause its the right thing to do.
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Old 03-01-2005, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: ATo SB defense -- good or sloppy?

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That's about 8 outs -- roughly 5 to 1, and I'm getting about 7 to 1 on the pot, so I call.

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I think that's way too generous...I'm not liking this postflop, but I would wait to hear from some more experienced players in blind defense.
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Old 03-01-2005, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: ATo SB defense -- good or sloppy?

I think that's a concensus...thoughts on postflop action and how you would handle a flop raise (assuming you 3bet PF and the BB folds and the CO calls (or caps and how that changes your thoughts).

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Old 03-01-2005, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: ATo SB defense -- good or sloppy?

I get uncomfortable in these situations because I'm not sure how to handle getting raised with a crap board.
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