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Old 02-27-2005, 03:20 PM
martinimagic martinimagic is offline
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Default KK what do you see here?

Villain is BB who is 62.5/0 with WSD 34 and he's been playing very weak.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Ok. I am thinking I am ahead of everyone.

Flop: (8 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, Button calls, SB folds.

Raise with calls doesn't give me a lot of info.

Turn: (5.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 folds, Button calls.

Bad habit of betting out or is it? Do I need to try C/R for fear value?

River: (7.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero...</font>

Should I just be calling here?

Final Pot: 9.50 BB
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Old 02-27-2005, 03:30 PM
elitegimp elitegimp is offline
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Default Re: KK what do you see here?

you have kings on a jack-high board. This is an easy bet (on both the turn and river).

P.S. when you take out your action on the river, you should remove the text-color flag as well.

edit: regarding the check-raise -- a check-raise only works if someone behind you bets, and in this case with such a passive player they probably won't bet.
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Old 02-27-2005, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: KK what do you see here?

There's no reason to slow down anywhere here. If I get raised on the river, I just call, though I'd be interested if anyone would 3-bet.
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Old 02-27-2005, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: KK what do you see here?

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River: (7.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero...</font>

[/ QUOTE ]

Makes the world's easiest value bet.
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Old 02-27-2005, 04:58 PM
martinimagic martinimagic is offline
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Default Re: KK what do you see here?

This is just one of those hands I finsih going "Huh?". Then I keep thinking there had to be a better way. He flipped KT.
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Old 02-27-2005, 05:17 PM
KaiShin KaiShin is offline
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Default Re: KK what do you see here?

If he's going to be that passive, then all the better for you. You still won the hand, although you didn't win the pot.
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Old 02-27-2005, 05:26 PM
Thriller Thriller is offline
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Default Re: KK what do you see here?

I don't see how you could have known he had hit his trips. He's behind you so he can't check raise. He never raised, calling you down from the flop on. There's no indication you're just adding money to his pot.
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Old 02-27-2005, 05:27 PM
Hojglad Hojglad is offline
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Default Re: KK what do you see here?

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If he's going to be that passive, then all the better for you. You still won the hand, although you didn't win the pot.

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Well said.
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