Is this an easy call?

TylerK · #1 02-25-2005, 12:20 AM

MP1 is kind of a moron. Easy call?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (8 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

MP1 (t13577)
MP2 (t38084)
CO (t4232)
Button (t30487)
SB (t2739)
Hero (t7860)
UTG (t17145)
UTG+1 (t11215)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls t400, MP2 calls t400, 3 folds, Hero raises to t1200, MP1 calls t800, MP2 calls t800.

Flop: (t3775) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets t1000, MP1 raises to t12352, MP2 folds, Hero calls t5635 (All-In).

Turn: (t22762) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t22762) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t22762

Roman · #2 02-25-2005, 12:25 AM

raise mroe pf, with that read, ofcourse...

SoCalPat · #3 02-25-2005, 12:26 AM

I'm not laying it down.

TylerK · #4 02-25-2005, 12:38 AM

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raise mroe pf, with that read, ofcourse...

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Interesting, what do you think would be an appropriate raise? I'd be afraid that more than 3xBB is going to possibly chase out both limpers.

ZBTHorton · #5 02-25-2005, 12:52 AM

If I have two limpers I MIGHT raise 4xBB but I don't see any problem with 3x.

That's an auto-call.

Roman · #6 02-25-2005, 12:53 AM

well general rule is 3x + 1x for each limper, but with AA I might make it 1600 or so half the time, and 2k half the time.

DemonDeac · #7 02-25-2005, 01:03 AM

i cant fold rockets on that board

Iconoclastic · #8 02-25-2005, 02:09 AM

Did you underbet the flop to induce a bluff?

Deftoner · #9 02-25-2005, 02:12 AM

I'd probably raise more, 1600 or 2k. I don't want both of 'em to come along, I'd rather try and get it heads up. Not to mention there is still 1400 out there for the taking already, so if everyone folds I'm not terribly upset. As for the flop play, I call and expect 'em to be good most the time.

BobbyTheG · #10 02-25-2005, 02:12 AM

I have a few thoughts on this one.....

I think the other posters are right, that making it about $1600 to go sounds about right, but they are probably going to call that if they called $1200, so don't think it makes much difference overall, but a good techincal point.

My next thought is that I think you underbet the pot on the flop. There is $3800 (+ any antes) in the pot and you bet $1000. I think that if you are intentionally underbetting the pot, then it's an auto call/reraise if you get raised. I would've put in about 1/2 to 2/3 of the pot. Anyone with a hand here would be getting almost 5 to 1 on a call on your $1000 bet. Obviously, if you bet $2500 here, then calling his raise is an easy decision.

Maybe not answering the question, but I would've bet more on the flop to make the pot odds a lot smaller for those behind me (granted, not many possible draw hands, but you said the guy was a dope) and then I'm pot committed so I don't have to make a tough decision with AA here.

To address your question specifically on how you played it, I call here. You may get clipped by a set, but he's just as apt to be playing TT or some such.