88 against an EP raiser

The-Matador · #1 02-24-2005, 02:16 AM

Raiser is a mystery ...

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 raises, 1 fold, Hero calls, 5 folds.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls.

River: (5.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB

Any thoughts? I don't know about this hand.

wrto4556 · #2 02-24-2005, 02:18 AM

I'de 3-bet preflop to keep the BB and SB out.

Flop, turn, and river look good, IMO.

jason_t · #3 02-24-2005, 02:18 AM

Fold preflop. Otherwise, nice hand.

The-Matador · #4 02-24-2005, 02:19 AM

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Fold preflop. Otherwise, nice hand.

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Horrible advice. Move on.

wrto4556 · #5 02-24-2005, 02:20 AM

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Fold preflop. Otherwise, nice hand.

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Why not isolate with a 3-bet?

jason_t · #6 02-24-2005, 02:20 AM

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Why not isolate with a 3-bet?

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It's an EP raise from an unknown. Fold.

DemonDeac · #7 02-24-2005, 02:21 AM

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Fold preflop. Otherwise, nice hand.

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Why not isolate with a 3-bet?

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because the raiser is in EP, that demands at least some form of respect.

i like the line given here

jason_t · #8 02-24-2005, 02:21 AM

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Horrible advice. Move on.

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Are you folding to a turn or river check/raise?

Entity · #9 02-24-2005, 02:21 AM

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Fold preflop. Otherwise, nice hand.

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Horrible advice. Move on.

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No reads on the rest of the table? I'm often inclined to 3-bet this hand, but it depends on who is sitting behind me and how I think they'll react to a coldcall or a 3-bet.

Anyway, postflop is standard. Hand is too vulnerable to check behind with at any point, and I think you're getting called down by AK- or AQ-high often enough to make this ok.

Rob

DemonDeac · #10 02-24-2005, 02:22 AM

i dont know about folding the 8s preflop with position. out of position, i think this is a fold. but not when he's got the advantage