AC Reports - Comparing Rooms (plus report)

[VinnyTheFish]

This was the 1st time that have played at the Taj Poker Room. The dummy I am, I forget my Taj card. I think of getting a copy of my taj card, but the line is out to the hallway. F-that. When they seat me, I tell the floor person that forgot my card. I try to give her my driver’s license and she stops me and tells me, boldly in a matter of fact way, where the line for cards is. I immediately see a huge difference between Taj staff vs. Borgata. I love the room at TaJ - its HUGE! It was really fun to watch “the big” Stud games. Pots made it about $4000-$6000! Then the winner tipped $2.00. YES TWO DOLLARS! How does the dealer not give it back and tell the some that apparently he needs it more than the dealer?

I guess I have to say that I enjoy the Borgota the most and rate it the best cardroom of Trop, Taj and Borg. The Borgota has a much friendly floor group, the deli is right there and the board is great. Dealer are very good. The play is looser and the room is 100% cleaner. The chips are also much cleaner. Does Taj at least wash their chips once a year? Taj, as I said before, love the size of the room, was not a big fan of the staff. The dealers varied in skill, some great, some horrible. I played 1-2 NL late Saturday night. The dealer had a band-aid on his finger and dealt about 10 less hands in his half hour. One player said, “Buddy, can you pick it up, it’s 2 a.m.” Also, about 4 a.m., I go to chip out. The change booth is closed. I ask the floor guy where can I cash my chips, he says, “the casino” (more so in a way like I was a drunk idiot who was asking for a free $1.) Now this pisses me off. I’ve played there for about 14 hours – not one drink, and I did not need to be spoken to in that manner. So like a wise ass, I ask about 3 more really dumb questions just to get under his skin. My buddies tell me the same story about the guy when they left. On a good note, I loved the side tournament room. Great move. The Players at 5-10 were tight. My Sunday table was a shark tank. The NL tables seemed as nice as Borgota. No difference really. Over all, I would say that there seemed to be more quality, maybe more knowledgeable players at the Taj. The wait at Taj is short compared to the Borgota. So you have your pluses and minuses at both. I do not drink, so I could crae less about the bottled beers, vs. what ever they serve at Taj.

[VinnyTheFish]

This was the 1st time that have played at the Taj Poker Room. I have always played at trop or the Borg. The dummy I am, I forget my Taj card (that may have not been use in 13 years at home). We arrive about noon and I get my name on the 5/10 list. I think of getting a copy of my Taj card, but the line is out to the hallway. F-that. When they seat me, I tell the floor person that forgot my card. I try to give her my driver’s license and she stops me and tells me, boldly, where the line for cards is. I immediately see a hug difference between Taj and Borgata. I love the room at Taj … HUGE! It was really fun to watch “the big” Stud games. Pots made it about $4000-$6000! Then the winner tipped $2.00. YES TWO DOLLARS! How does the dealer not give it back and tell the some that apparently he needs it more than the dealer? I did not realist there was no 6-12 there. They start a new 5/10 table and I am not happy about the make up of the table. The table seems very tight, yet I win 6 of 7 at show down and end up about 30 BB in 3 hours of play. The last have hour, I chase a few hands and leave the table up a bit over 20 BB. I set next to a very nice, heavier woman who seemed to play there a lot. I begin to complain that the pots are only about $80, but as I think about it, that seems about right for the table I was at. I guess I played too much live 6/12 and was thinking the pots would be close.

We get up to the room and I whip it out … yep my pride and joy … my new Granny Mae shirt! But then I cover it up with a pull-over. We sign up for the tourn, Buffet it, and get back bout 6.

The tourn starts about 7 with over 160 people. I unleash Granny Mae. Still no one says anything to me! [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] Just before the break, a short stack goes all-in UTG. It’s about 30% of my stack, so I go all in over the top with A8s. Not a normal move, but the table was ultra tight. We only had one person out by then. (We had two hands where a person went all-in. One was a split.) I lose to Ad 2d when the 2 hits on the turn, but I am in good shape for my table. The leader has 6K and I have 3K. But again, our table is very short stacked and I know that is going to hurt later. BREAK. I am in the BB and the short stack pushes again, now I hold AhJh and call. Her AQs dies when a Jack hit on the turn. I am now up to 7K. Two hands later, I bluff out the table bully to push to 12K. This was my 2nd biggest mistake of the day. I crippled him. He should have called and was ultra pot committed. But he folded leaving him with about 1500. He leave two hands later. This is where it gets bad. Before he left, the chip leader was on my left, then I was #2 in chips and happy to sit around with 12K and 7 tables left. In walks, drunk and crazy with about 25K. 1st hand he calls an all-in with A2 and knocks out QQ as an A hits on the flop. Two hands later, I am in the BB with 88. Blinds are 300-600. Drunk Caller calls, folds to SB who calls. I know that SB will fold to any raise. But drunky, I am iffy on. I think I should have pushed here and stole the pot. I bet 2K on top. Drunk calls, SB fold. The flop come A-5-7. I dunno if I like the flop and I want to check. But I am thinking raise 1200 as a tester, he comes over thetop, I fold. But what if he just calls? I get a read he will call any small raise all the way down and I do not want that. I have no read on what his cards ... he is still stacking his chips from the last hand. But, he’s a Huge stack, My mind goes blank. I do the worst thing I can. All in! What the hell was I thinking. The guy immediately starts matching my chips. I knew I was done. He turns over ATo and I am out. I am seriously mad at myself for this. I felt that I had complete control over the table and was picking my spots. There was no need for this move.

I go back to the room, and try to get a quick nap, so I can play till sunrise. But I obviously cannot sleep. So a long shower and back to the room. I play 5/10 again. Now I love the table. There is not one player at the table that I gain any respect for. Many are drinking, two are playing like it’s the WSOP final TV table. And the bets is the Table coach! After about 3 hours, I cannot get ahead. I hover between even and –7 BB. Then it happens. I am waiting and waiting to catch table coach. He has analyzed every hand, spoke of how he plays, he swears that you have to sit at the “hot seat “ to win and (*you know the rest *). But the best was his knowledge of Internet gambling. The top 2 was: (1) “It is so obvious that guys at the table are on cell phones with each other, especially at 6-max. I stopped playing there all together. The tournaments are the way to go. They cannot be fixed” (2) “Party Poker is programmed so that player cannot lose a certain number of hands in a row. That is how they get you to come back. So I always keep reloading. I never leave the table down.” ** I had to cover my mouth, I was laughing so hard. **

So here is comes. I have not played a hand out of the blind in about an hour. Out of frustration, I limp with Jh5h UTG +1. Coach raises to 10, another reraise, I cap for fun. We have 5 players, all capped. (* I have no right being in this hands *) The flop comes J5x. BINGO! BINGO! I check, it gets to me at 10, I call. Can you smell the stop-and-go? Turn matches a suit, but it still low - I still like my 2 pair and I am confident that it is the best hand. I check, coach goes 10, folds to me, I check-raise, he comes back, I just call. I have him on KK or AA, maybe AK. The best part is that I think he drooling. I bet 10, he calls. He turns over AA like it was a royal, I meekly turn J5 and he erupts. He berates me for almost an hour. The best is two hands later, I am BB, and fold with no raise. Can you hear him, "he caps with J-5 off suit but folds instead of adding $3!" I am back to even when a regular kid sits down. I like him. He is funny, he’s juicing the pots and he livens up the table. He also realizes that Coach is one the “the best.” With in 20 minutes, his two buddies are with us and they are making the pots huge. But I just have a bad feeling about it. I leave the table a while later because my friends are at a very juicy NL game. Needles to say, I go back and check in with the locals. They have since taken coach for a few bills. The $1-2 NL game only adds a small amount to my stack. I go to bed up $400 for the day including the entry loss in the tourn.

The Granny Mae Shirt: No one said thing. I would say to a dealer every so often, “Give me a brown trout on a stick.” But no one seemed to notice. Needless to say, I made no need 2+2 friends this weekend.

[tylerdurden]

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Pots made it about $4000-$6000! Then the winner tipped $2.00. YES TWO DOLLARS! How does the dealer not give it back and tell the some that apparently he needs it more than the dealer?

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How much should he have tipped??? The dealer does the same work whether the pot is $6000 or $6.

[RollaJ]

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How does the dealer not give it back and tell the some that apparently he needs it more than the dealer?


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Because that would be a lie, and it would be stupid.

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I unleash Granny Mae. Still no one says anything to me!

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Next time try unleashing your Brown Trout, Im sure people will say something then [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[VinnyTheFish]

Sunday: We wake up about 10, hit the buffet head to Taj. I actually put $5 into a Slot, while waiting for friend, and hit $60 profit on the second pull. +60 and not even in the Taj 3 minutes. The Room is almost empty but fills up really fast! They start a 5/10 and I am the only guy there under 55. Buddy, what a shark tank! They must think I was the “fish of the day” because after an hour, I played a few nice hands, they called a few early raises and I was up bout 10BB. I won 4 of 5 at show down. The pots were never really near 100, so it was a grind. I decide to hit-and-run after almost 2 hours. I was beginning to think I was the fish at the table.

I think about Black Jack, but I do not like any tables. I come back and play a tough 1-2 NL game. The table bully was running the table. He took my buddy for 200, but my buddy made two horrible plays. Play the first 4 hands hard with AQo, AJo, and TT. I win 3 and lose 1 for a even four hands. But my image looks poor.

I sit for over an hours and get 88 in the BB. Oh no, the same hand that I misplayed in the tourn. Bully calls from UTG +1. It gets to me with 3 people in the pot. I raise to 12, 3 callers including Bully. Flop 2-5-8. Bully bets $25, I play dumb and call. Turn is a Jack. Now I am not happy, I have him on AA-JJ, AK, AQ, but I cannot narrow it down. He would have raised preflop with AA-JJ. He goes $25, I come back with $50. He pushes, I fold, but he just calls? Ok, now I am stumped. Maybe he has TT? He check the King on the river. I make it $50, which leaves me with 30 in front of me. He calls and then erupts when I show. I crack his Aces. He starts berating me – loving it. I wait about 2 minutes and ask him what I did wrong? He tries to tell me, and then I say “weren’t you UTG +1 and no raise with AA preflop, more, no Reraise preflop? He never said another word. I lean to my buddy and I say, “wanna see this guy (bully) go on tilt?” -- I rack my chips and say “I am going to play Black Jack.”

Needless to say, My buddy busts the guy about 2 hours later with K2, when the flop comes 22x. That just made my weekend. Over all it was nice weekend, I was up about 50BB, had a great open faced steak sandwich and a beer for dinner Sunday.

I am seriously considering hitting AC next weekend.

[VinnyTheFish]

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How much should he have tipped??? The dealer does the same work whether the pot is $6000 or $6.

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I do not know, but that is why I am asking. But IMO, 5-10 sounds so much better. I would at least throw a red chip on a 5K pot.

I did sound rude, but I was more curious.

[VTDuffman]

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Pots made it about $4000-$6000! Then the winner tipped $2.00. YES TWO DOLLARS! How does the dealer not give it back and tell the some that apparently he needs it more than the dealer?

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How much should he have tipped??? The dealer does the same work whether the pot is $6000 or $6.

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Do you tip more at a 5-Star restaurant than you do at Applebees? If so, why? The waitstaff is doing the same work. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[RollaJ]

The way I see it there is a difference. It is sort of an unwritten rule, that you are generally not tipping for good service, but rather paying their salary as long as they dont screw up (ie bad service). If I waited to tip only dealers that did a really good job I may tip only 4 times a weekend.
That being said, there are already some really good threads on tipping so Ill stop........but this has officially been HIJACKED

[freekobe]

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Pots made it about $4000-$6000! Then the winner tipped $2.00. YES TWO DOLLARS! How does the dealer not give it back and tell the some that apparently he needs it more than the dealer?

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How much should he have tipped??? The dealer does the same work whether the pot is $6000 or $6.

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Do you tip more at a 5-Star restaurant than you do at Applebees? If so, why? The waitstaff is doing the same work. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Hmmm.....let's think about this:

Applebee's check total: $50
5-star restaurant total: $150

You tip the same on both???? Uh, no. It's % based.

Your logic is completely flawed, but your conclusion is correct. The tips are the same at big games and small games. Tipping $5 or $10 a hand is not practical. However, I wouldn't be surprised to see a $3 tip at a big game as opposed to the common practice of tipping $1 per hand at the lower limits.

[PoorLawyer]

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Pots made it about $4000-$6000! Then the winner tipped $2.00. YES TWO DOLLARS! How does the dealer not give it back and tell the some that apparently he needs it more than the dealer?

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How much should he have tipped??? The dealer does the same work whether the pot is $6000 or $6.

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Do you tip more at a 5-Star restaurant than you do at Applebees? If so, why? The waitstaff is doing the same work. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Hmmm.....let's think about this:

Applebee's check total: $50
5-star restaurant total: $150

You tip the same on both???? Uh, no. It's % based.

Your logic is completely flawed, but your conclusion is correct. The tips are the same at big games and small games. Tipping $5 or $10 a hand is not practical. However, I wouldn't be surprised to see a $3 tip at a big game as opposed to the common practice of tipping $1 per hand at the lower limits.

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but at a high end restaurant you are supposed to tip a higher %...