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Old 02-21-2005, 04:25 PM
Zeke Zeke is offline
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Default Will you toss your KK on this flop

Say you're on the button with K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], UTG limps (say UTG is very very loose and passive post flop). You raise, both blinds and the limper call.

Flop comes A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

blinds check, UTG bets I have 2 backdoor draws and the chance to spike a king, but the pot isn't very big (8 sb). What do you do here?
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Old 02-21-2005, 04:27 PM
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Default Re: Will you toss your KK on this flop

Raise
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Old 02-21-2005, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: Will you toss your KK on this flop

Toss?........No I am going to raise, then seriously consider "tossing" it, only if it is capped back to me.

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Old 02-21-2005, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: Will you toss your KK on this flop

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Raise

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With the intention of taking a free card on the turn?
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Old 02-21-2005, 04:35 PM
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Default Re: Will you toss your KK on this flop

depending on the turn and the action, I would bet the turn and then take a free showdown.
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Old 02-21-2005, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: Will you toss your KK on this flop

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Raise

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With the intention of taking a free card on the turn?

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Hell no if he calls your raise and checks turn card pop him again. Don't auto assume he has an ace.
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Old 02-21-2005, 04:37 PM
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depending on the turn and the action, I would bet the turn and then take a free showdown.

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I like this line.
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Old 02-21-2005, 04:38 PM
Zeke Zeke is offline
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Default Re: Will you toss your KK on this flop

I don't understand why you wouldn't assume he has an ace. UTG is a passive player post flop and he bet into the preflop raiser.
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Old 02-21-2005, 04:39 PM
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Default Re: Will you toss your KK on this flop

Even if UTG is LAP post-flop, you can't put him on an ace automatically. Raise!
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Old 02-21-2005, 04:43 PM
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I don't understand why you wouldn't assume he has an ace. UTG is a passive player post flop and he bet into the preflop raiser.

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Zeke loose and passive you don't think he could be betting a flush draw a queen or less. Loose passive players don't just bet when they have the nuts bro. I am not saying your not beat but lets find out first.
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