Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > Limit Texas Hold'em > Small Stakes Hold'em
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-21-2005, 12:04 PM
Bill Smith Bill Smith is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Camp Randall, Sec. O
Posts: 500
Default 2nd pair mid kick, flop checks through so I bet...

Not many hands on UTG, but stats are 41/7/0.80. MP2 is a call station.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks.

Turn: (2 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP2 calls, SB folds.

River: (5 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks?, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP2 folds, Hero has no clue...
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-21-2005, 12:26 PM
Chobohoya Chobohoya is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 18
Default Re: 2nd pair mid kick, flop checks through so I bet...

UTG seems sufficiently goofy that you can call here. You've induced a bluff by checking, you're supposed to call the bet after you do that.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-21-2005, 12:32 PM
xxxxx xxxxx is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 97
Default Re: 2nd pair mid kick, flop checks through so I bet...

Raise. You beat any King except AK.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-21-2005, 12:37 PM
chief444 chief444 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 211
Default Re: 2nd pair mid kick, flop checks through so I bet...

Why did you check the river against two very loose opponents?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-21-2005, 12:40 PM
27offsooot 27offsooot is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: For the love of God and all that is holy, MY ANUS IS BLEEDING!
Posts: 541
Default Re: 2nd pair mid kick, flop checks through so I bet...

You also lose to any ace. Call.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-21-2005, 12:43 PM
spydog spydog is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 7
Default Re: 2nd pair mid kick, flop checks through so I bet...

I usually bet this flop. Not sure if that's the correct play, but I hate check-folding and check-calling feels very awkward.

I think I would have bet this river and folded to a raise.

Since you checked, I think you must call the river bet. Raising seems risky unless you are willing to fold to a 3-bet.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-21-2005, 12:48 PM
27offsooot 27offsooot is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: For the love of God and all that is holy, MY ANUS IS BLEEDING!
Posts: 541
Default Re: 2nd pair mid kick, flop checks through so I bet...

[ QUOTE ]

I think I would have bet this river and folded to a raise.


[/ QUOTE ]

Agreed.

[ QUOTE ]

Since you checked, I think you must call the river bet. Raising seems risky unless you are willing to fold to a 3-bet.

[/ QUOTE ]

Even if he doesn't three bet, a raise is still pretty bad here.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-21-2005, 03:48 PM
Bill Smith Bill Smith is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Camp Randall, Sec. O
Posts: 500
Default Re: 2nd pair mid kick, flop checks through so I bet... (results)

[ QUOTE ]
I usually bet this flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't find this hand to be strong enough to bet into 3 people without some validation. While I understand I could be missing bets if I'm good, Ace-rag is really popular among players like these.

[ QUOTE ]
I think I would have bet this river and folded to a raise.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree that this would've been a better play.

I call, UTG shows (get ready) A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MHING.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-21-2005, 03:53 PM
rmarotti rmarotti is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Hibernating
Posts: 36
Default Re: 2nd pair mid kick, flop checks through so I bet... (results)

My Account --&gt; Buddy List
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-21-2005, 04:05 PM
Bill Smith Bill Smith is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Camp Randall, Sec. O
Posts: 500
Default Re: 2nd pair mid kick, flop checks through so I bet... (results)

[ QUOTE ]
My Account --&gt; Buddy List

[/ QUOTE ]

Been there --&gt; Done that
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:59 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.