Need help on this river decision

Xiphoid · #1 02-20-2005, 08:47 PM

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Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 3 folds, MP1 3-bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 bets, MP2 folds, Hero raises, MP1 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets, Hero calls.

River: (10.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero...................

I bet here and right afterwards I felt horrible about it; however, when I thought about it again and how odd MP1's check on the river is, I began debating it. My assumption was this: MP1 was merely betting out his AK.

How bad or good is it?

LAGmaniac · #2 02-20-2005, 08:54 PM

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My assumption was this: MP1 was merely betting out his AK.

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Maybe but it doubtful. Even if he did he's not calling your "value" betenough here for it to be +EV. Take the free showdown and get shown AA

deadmunny · #3 02-20-2005, 09:32 PM

IMHO, I do not like the bet.... given the action on previous streets, would you fold to a raise or call it?

I would check, for the sake of losing one BB I would want to see it.

Regards D

CrazyN8 · #4 02-21-2005, 01:17 AM

Agreed, I would check it down. You realized afterwards what you did so maybe next time you will slow down a bit. It happens.

ErrantNight · #5 02-21-2005, 02:39 AM

if you want to see a showdown you should call down starting on the flop. what do you hope to accomplish by raising? you're ahead of AK and TT. you're giving those hands a chance to fold, and every better hand a chance to extra more money from you.

call the flop, call the turn, if checked to on the river, you can bet and fold to a raise or check behind.

i'm sure someone could make an argument in that circumstance for bet/calling... but i'm not sure i see it.

Xiphoid · #6 02-21-2005, 01:36 PM

Seeing that it was heads up on the flop, you're right in that I should have just called down.

I was shown KK and the pot went to my opponent.

adamstewart · #7 02-21-2005, 01:42 PM

I check this river through.

Only three things can happen when you bet:

1. He folds (no value in betting)
2. He check-raises you (Lost value, do you have the discipline to fold to the river check-raise?)
3. He calls.

The only favourable outcome is #3. The question is: What worse hand calls you here? I doubt there are many (compared to the other possibilities). Given the action thus far, villain likely either has you beat or he has a broken flush draw.

Adam