Flopped Quads-to make the move on turn, or river?

ApolloQuiet · #1 02-19-2005, 03:49 PM

The reason I played this the way I did was to maximize # of opponants, and maybe try to get a raise on the river. Any thoughts appreciated.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
5 folds, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero checks.

Flop: (3.33 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks, Button bets, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (3.16 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks, Button bets, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

River: (6.16 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP3 folds, Button calls.

Final Pot: 8.16 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has 5d 3d (four of a kind, fives).
Button has 6s Kd (full house, fives full of sixes).
Outcome: Hero wins 8.16 BB.

easypete · #2 02-19-2005, 03:59 PM

I would have lead the turn. Make them think you have a boat w/ the 4... they will call and maybe even raise w/ overpairs to the board. C/R here would scream big hand... don't know that you want to do this.

adamstewart · #3 02-19-2005, 04:00 PM

I refer you here.

....then here.

Get it?

Adam

maryfield48 · #4 02-19-2005, 04:46 PM

Lead the turn. You'll get 2 BBs when they call (and they will, considerably more often than not), and you'll have two players around at the river who might hit a boat.

Checking with the nuts and then not c/r-ing is just stoopid (and I mean that in the nicest possible way) - you have risked it checking through to get what a lead bet would have given you for no risk.

deadmunny · #5 02-19-2005, 05:13 PM

You know I hate hands like these If I am not the one holding the 4th One.

I say this because even If I have AK etc or high pair I will nearly always fold because even if you make your f/house you are still drawing dead more often than not some idiot is holding the 3,4,5, 6 etc as well as examples like yours where you have it on the BB.

That said I would bet the turn.

Regards D

Entity · #6 02-19-2005, 05:23 PM

I would give serious consideration to leading the flop.

SpaceAce · #7 02-19-2005, 05:28 PM

What's all this lead the turn garbage? Lead the flop. Nobody believes you have a five.

SpaceAce

maryfield48 · #8 02-20-2005, 09:42 PM

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What's all this lead the turn garbage? Lead the flop. Nobody believes you have a five.

SpaceAce

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Yeah, really. I say this as one of the spewers of said lead the turn garbage. How many times have you faced trips on the flop and tossed for one SB?

Neither do they.

shant · #9 02-20-2005, 09:53 PM

If you had 55 and the flop was 55x this line still wouldn't be good. Now with the flop being 555 no one is going to believe you have a 5. Every pair, every A, maybe even K highs are going to eiher raise or call and give you their money. You missed bets.

Fnord · #10 02-21-2005, 12:19 AM

Didn't know you were a member of fight club. I thought these hands were certainly more interesting...

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Fnord is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises, 2 folds, SB (ApolloQuiet) 3-bets, 1 fold, MP caps, SB (ApolloQuiet) calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
ApolloQuiet checks, MP bets, ApolloQuiet calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
ApolloQuiet checks, MP bets, ApolloQuiet raises, MP calls.

River: (9.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
ApolloQuiet bets, MP calls.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB

Results in white below: 
ApolloQuiet has Ad Ac (two pair, aces and tens).
MP has Jc Jd (two pair, jacks and tens).
Outcome: ApolloQuiet wins 11.50 BB. 

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Fnord is UTG+1 with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP1 raises, 3 folds, Button (ApolloQuiet) 3-bets, 2 folds, MP1 caps, Button (ApolloQuiet) calls.

Flop: (9.33 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets, ApolloQuiet raises, MP1 3-bets, ApolloQuiet caps, MP1 calls.

Turn: (8.66 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 checks, ApolloQuiet checks.

River: (8.66 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 checks, ApolloQuiet checks.

Final Pot: 8.66 BB

Results in white below: 
MP1 has Qs Qh (one pair, queens).
ApolloQuiet has Js Jh (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: MP1 wins 8.66 BB. 

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Fnord is MP1 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 (ApolloQuiet) raises, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, ApolloQuiet bets, BB raises, ApolloQuiet 3-bets, BB calls.

Turn: (5.16 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, ApolloQuiet bets, BB calls.

River: (7.16 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, ApolloQuiet checks.

Final Pot: 7.16 BB

Results in white below: 
BB has 8h Jd (two pair, tens and eights).
ApolloQuiet has Ah Kh (one pair, tens).
Outcome: BB wins 7.16 BB. 

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Fnord is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 (ApolloQuiet) calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, Fnord calls, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (4.33 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, ApolloQuiet bets, MP3 folds, Fnord raises, BB folds, ApolloQuiet 3-bets, Fnord calls.

Turn: (5.16 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
ApolloQuiet bets, Fnord calls.

River: (7.16 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
ApolloQuiet checks, Fnord checks.

Final Pot: 7.16 BB

Results in white below: 
ApolloQuiet has Qc Kh (two pair, kings and queens).
Fnord has Qd Jh (two pair, queens and jacks).
Outcome: ApolloQuiet wins 7.16 BB.