Now where is that skirt???

Altaslim · #1 02-18-2005, 05:50 AM

Both opponents have less than 10 hands at the table, though I've just watched BB PFR with Q5o, flop top pair and turn 2 pair.

I didn't figure both opponents to be on a flush draw, perhaps one on a set. Do I bet this river???

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 3 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, BB calls, Hero caps, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (9 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB calls.

River: (12 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 12 BB

MrFeelNothin · #2 02-18-2005, 05:55 AM

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Do I bet this river???

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YES.

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I didn't figure both opponents to be on a flush draw, perhaps one on a set.

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Heres a question for you, have you EVER seen either the SBs or the BBs line taken by a set?
Also, what about the str8 draw? I think it is very likely that one of them has a pair/str8 draw or even a naked 10.

Very clear bet on river.

Altaslim · #3 02-18-2005, 06:10 AM

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Heres a question for you, have you EVER seen either the SBs or the BBs line taken by a set?

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EVER is a mighty long time...I probably have. Your answer would be easier to hear if you stripped the condescension and just told me that line would be unlikely for a set.

Scotch78 · #4 02-18-2005, 06:15 AM

Like the other poster said, you're seeing monsters. What I would be looking for is two pair turned full-house, not a flopped set. However, I still think you missed a clear value bet. Also, once the BB cold-called the flop, I would've waited to pop the turn.

Scott

BradL · #5 02-18-2005, 07:18 AM

For the love of christ bet the river.

-Brad

7ontheline · #6 02-18-2005, 11:56 AM

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Heres a question for you, have you EVER seen either the SBs or the BBs line taken by a set?

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EVER is a mighty long time...I probably have. Your answer would be easier to hear if you stripped the condescension and just told me that line would be unlikely for a set.

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It's an internet forum - you asked for advice - don't be so sensitive when someone doesn't take the most super-polite tone.

And yes, bet the river.

MAxx · #7 02-18-2005, 12:43 PM

I probably would have value bet a Jack good kicker on the river, prepared to fold to a raise. This maybe questionable or even bad.

Your hand, my friend is an easy value bet and call of a raise. If you are raised, I would have a hard time not reraising... but I would cool out and probably just call.

I just think that if you are not value betting this river, you are probably missing a ton of river value bets.

MrFeelNothin · #8 02-18-2005, 01:47 PM

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Also, once the BB cold-called the flop, I would've waited to pop the turn.

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I like this a lot Scotch, good spot.

Altaslim- sorry if my post seemed condescending, I was just trying to hammer home the point that this river bet was eeeeasy. Nothing personal.

flawless_victory · #9 02-18-2005, 02:56 PM

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I probably would have value bet a Jack good kicker on the river, prepared to fold to a raise. This maybe questionable or even bad.

[/ QUOTE ]checking AJ here would be retarded.

ggbman · #10 02-18-2005, 02:58 PM

This is among the easier value bet decisions you will have to make, especially since the bottom card on the flop paired. If the river was a J, i suppose an argument for checking could be formulated, but i think you bet anny river here after 3 checks, the pot is so big and people would be wrong to get cute with ahnds that beat yours.