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Old 02-16-2005, 12:12 AM
kpux kpux is offline
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Default 88 experiment hand

I have no data in my PT about this opponent. He seems like a boob preflop though.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (4.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button folds, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>

Final Pot: 5.25 BB

Good? Bad? Stupid?
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Old 02-16-2005, 12:28 AM
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Default Re: 88 experiment hand

I don't like it.

Calling the raise on the flop isn't too bad. 7-to-1 pot odds with middle pair and backdoor flush. (am I wrong?)

Checking the flop may let him also check (if he his making a free card play)

If you do bet the turn, fold to a reraise, pot's not big enough to be tricky here.

It seems like a good card to bluff on, though, as it is a 3-flush and also an overcard. But is it worth it for 4.25BB? (player dependent bluff)
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Old 02-16-2005, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: 88 experiment hand

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If you do bet the turn, fold to a reraise, pot's not big enough to be tricky here.

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Yeah, that was the plan.
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Old 02-16-2005, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: 88 experiment hand

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It seems like a good card to bluff on, though, as it is a 3-flush and also an overcard. But is it worth it for 4.25BB? (player dependent bluff)

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I thought it was worth it, he only has to fold 20% of the time or so. That's really a terrible card for him if he has a Q or 99-JJ
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Old 02-16-2005, 01:15 AM
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I thought it was worth it, he only has to fold 20% of the time or so. That's really a terrible card for him if he has a Q or 99-JJ

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I like it, IF you think you can fold these hands. Without a read that he is a player that is capable of making these folds (and most PP 2/4 players do not fit that description), you are being called down far too frequently. Also, I feel that a large portion of his raising hands that you were ahead of on the flop were killed by that card.
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