I'm hating myself for this fold, but....

[randomfish]

At the time I misread villain's stats as sLP-P and figured it was a standard tricky-fish stop-n-go with the flopped trips. Today I'm replaying all my lost hands from last night, and seeing villain was actually sLP-A. I have around 300 hands, and he's 26/4.5/1.69, but with only 1.05 turn aggression.

So, was this fold ok or weak?

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero folds, MP3 calls.

[tiltaholic]

yah dude. thats weak. i'd raise the turn.

remember, your villian's autorating may have changed during the course of your session...(he could have been more passive earlier).

[Joey Knish]

Raise the turn.

Call a river bet.

[droolie]

Very weak. Players will play this way with any pocket pair because it's an overpair to the board. I think I go into calldown mode when villian leads the turn.

[Nick Royale]

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Very weak. Players will play this way with any pocket pair because it's an overpair to the board. I think I go into calldown mode when villian leads the turn.

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Agreed.

[davelin]

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Very weak. Players will play this way with any pocket pair because it's an overpair to the board. I think I go into calldown mode when villian leads the turn.

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How about a raise to get rid of the other opponent?

[droolie]

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Very weak. Players will play this way with any pocket pair because it's an overpair to the board. I think I go into calldown mode when villian leads the turn.

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How about a raise to get rid of the other opponent?

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A raise is fine I guess but I don't do it in this situation. I want to get to a cheap showdown and expect to lose a great deal of the time but win enough to make seeing the showdown profitable. This includes losing pots when the other guy hits on the river. I would do it if there were more players to punch out or if I felt strongly that we were still ahead a great deal of the time. I let the other player hang around because I'm not sure the extra bet we spend + the chances of getting reraised is worth it when he might have folded anyways.

[randomfish]

Downloaded PokerStove. Nice little app.

Anyway, estimated a hand distribution for the two villains and ran the numbers.

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre> 1,099,896 games 0.911 secs 1,207,350 games/sec

Board: 3s 3h 4c 2d
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 24.3175 % [ 00.24 00.00 ] { KsKd }
Hand 2: 65.7452 % [ 00.66 00.00 ] { TT-22, A3s, K3s, Q3s, J3s, T3s, 93s, 83s, 73s, 63s, 53s,
43s, 32s, A3o, K3o, Q3o, J3o, T3o, 93o, 83o, 73o, 63o, 53o,
43o, 32o }
Hand 3: 09.9373 % [ 00.10 00.00 ] { JJ-44, 22, AKs-A2s, KQs-KTs, QJs, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s,
65s, 54s, AKo-ATo, KQo-KTo, QJo, JTo } </pre><hr />

Basically gave BB any low-mid pair and any 3, and the other villain a somewhat loose set of limp-calling hands. Sound ok?

If I call down I'm getting somewhere between 4.5-1 and 5.5-1 (depending on the third man calling or not), and with a 24% equity it should be profitable if villain plays all these hands exactly like this...but I'm very often seeing the stop-and-go from passive players with big hands, so I'm not sure that's the case.

Maybe I'm just going into a shell after hitting my first 10k+ hand downswing [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]