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Old 02-15-2005, 02:34 AM
12ozLongneck 12ozLongneck is offline
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Default AQo flops second pair + backdoor draws

MP1 was loose-passive. Over about 50 hands, the button was at about 40% VP$IP and 15% PFR.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (11 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, CO folds, Button calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

River: (10 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, Button calls.

Final Pot: 16 BB

I don't like the turn or the river here at all.

The check-call on the turn seems weak to me in spite of the 3-flush on the board.

I went for the check raise on the river here because the button could usually be counted on to bet if checked to even if he didn't have a hand. Even though it worked, I still think that betting out is way better since there's a pretty good chance that the other two players (even the usually aggressive button) will elect to take a free showdown given the very coordinated nature of the board.

All in all, I don't think I played this very well at all.

Your thoughts?
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Old 02-15-2005, 02:39 AM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: AQo flops second pair + backdoor draws

Check calling the turn with overcards is good in certain circumstances... like...

Flop J96 - you have AQ, you bet and get called three times.

Turn T - you check call with overcard and gutshot outs because you're probably behind and want to see the river cheaply.

In this case though, you have second pair top kicker and nut flush draw on the turn. This is worth continuing betting.

I really dislike the river check raise. K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] probably raises if you bet but won't raise if you check raise, and MP1 really can't be counted on calling two cold on a 4-flush board.
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Old 02-15-2005, 02:51 AM
pointcount pointcount is offline
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Default Re: AQo flops second pair + backdoor draws

I would be betting the turn and betting the river (you are braver than I).

Check calling the turn is weak.
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