Low limit beatable? or impossible!(long)

[oxsin1000]

Hi,anyone have an opinion on this,if you play the better cards you should beat a worse player than you in the long run right? ,unless you get unlucky right? but when you are playing nine other players is it even possible to beat this luck factor at all? it only takes one of them to get lucky to beat you per hand and quickly erode your bankroll and confidence,i guess my question is, should you even bother playing loose low limit holdem when 5/6 players are seeing the flop,or should you save up until you can afford the higher limits,where 2/3 people see the flop and you half the chance of getting sucked out.Any opinions would be great.

[shant]

Could you point me towards these tables with 5/6 people seeing the flop?

[Brian]

Yes. Clearly you should do better against people who are playing well than against people who are playing absolute trash. I recommend immediately jumping to the 100/200 games, as you'll have an easier time beating the pros than the awful players at the micro limits.

-Brian

[pecto]

That's right, move up to avoid the bad beats!!

[PokerBob]

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Hi,anyone have an opinion on this,if you play the better cards you should beat a worse player than you in the long run right? ,unless you get unlucky right? but when you are playing nine other players is it even possible to beat this luck factor at all? it only takes one of them to get lucky to beat you per hand and quickly erode your bankroll and confidence,i guess my question is, should you even bother playing loose low limit holdem when 5/6 players are seeing the flop,or should you save up until you can afford the higher limits,where 2/3 people see the flop and you half the chance of getting sucked out.Any opinions would be great.

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I will answer you sincerely, but be advised that you are about to become the victim of an onslaught the likes of which are rarely seen.

Yes, these games are beatable. Your problem is (like mine was) that the psychology of getting a big hand cracked by some dumdum was messing with your head. You have to look at the BIGGER picture. Yes, you will lose more often when 5/6 players are running you down, but the times you win will be HUGE and offset your losses by FAR in the long run. If you read this forum and adjust your game accordingly, you will WELCOME games where 5/6 monkeys see every flop. Be patient, my son.

[pokerkai]

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you are about to become the victim of an onslaught the likes of which are rarely seen

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Thank you for making me laugh out loud...middle of a bad session right now and that is just AWESOME haha

[mistrpug]

Somebody's gotta be making money in the long run (assuming a normal rake). Do you think it's one of those loose/bad players or do you think it's the better players?

[oxsin1000]

Before i recieve my onslaught,all im really asking as a relativly new player to the game is, if at low limits the luck factor is too high to beat the game?what is a reasonable view flop percentage? 17-19 20-25?
any serious comments would be appreciated. thks.

[lmbree]

The luck factor isn't too high at those limits... You need to build the biggest pots you can when you have the best hands and after 5 times in a row of having your AA cracked by 84, you keep building the pots. If you get the money in when you have the best chance of winning, you will be a long term winner. I lost 150 bucks last night on pp because i had some people catch 4 out hands on the river and take down MY [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] 70 dollar pots. I am winning over 2 bb/100 over 20k (i know for most of you guys, this is a week...) hands though, and that makes me happy. Oh and to answer your question, I like tables with a VPIP %of 35-40 if i can find them, but typically at night i see them 25-30% or so and during the day -15%

[jason_t]

Because of the rake, in the long run, the average player is losing money.