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Old 02-13-2005, 04:15 AM
Sephus Sephus is offline
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Default 50 NL out of position against tilty LAG

both hands against the same guy. like the subject says he is tilty and he is LAG. any comments welcome. anyone think the slowplaying got a little gratuitous?

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MP ($49.55)
CO ($155.03)
Hero ($122.5)
SB ($186.25)
BB ($83.12)
UTG ($47)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, MP calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds, MP folds, Hero calls $5.

Flop: ($15) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $15</font>, Hero calls $15.

Turn: ($45) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $25</font>, Hero calls $25.

River: ($95) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $76.5 (All-In)</font>, SB calls $56.50.

Final Pot: $248


he had JJ, which sets up this:


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BB ($33.05)
UTG ($48.93)
Hero ($267.5)
CO ($197)
Button ($62.22)
SB ($49.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, CO calls $6, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG folds.

Flop: ($14.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $30</font>, Hero calls $30.

Turn: ($74.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $50</font>, Hero calls $50.

River: ($174.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $70</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $111 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $41.

Final Pot: $396.50
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Old 02-13-2005, 05:57 AM
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Default Re: 50 NL out of position against tilty LAG

Hand 1 looks ok. Since you hold the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] it seems doubtful that SB is on a flush draw, so the check/call line seems good since he'll pay you off with a worse hand.

Hand 2 is a little bit trickier. It's a double paired board so I might reraise at some point just to find out where I'm at. If he decided to get real aggressive, he might put the fear of god in me and I might let this one go.
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Old 02-13-2005, 06:04 AM
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Default Re: 50 NL out of position against tilty LAG

You do understand that just bc someone is LAG doesnt mean they loosely call raises...we need some info on what he has shown down for the 2nd hand.

The first hand was a case of Ace denial. Followed by icanstealthispotitis. Its common on the lower PP tables...doctor Zaxx will continue to break donkeys afflicted with these maladies in pursuit of one day irradicating these horrible illnesses. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 02-13-2005, 06:33 AM
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Default Re: 50 NL out of position against tilty LAG

But he is not just LAG, he is tilty lag.
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Old 02-13-2005, 06:50 AM
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Default Re: 50 NL out of position against tilty LAG

Does tilty mean...will call a large raise with Q10s...I mean perhaps me and you have a different understanding of the word tilt...last time I checked I sometimes caught huge hands while on tilt..
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Old 02-13-2005, 07:25 AM
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Default Re: 50 NL out of position against tilty LAG

"Does tilty mean..will call a large raise with Q10s."

Yes, that is often exactly what it means.
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Old 02-13-2005, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: 50 NL out of position against tilty LAG

you would let it go after the way he played JJ in the first hand?

he is a LAG on tilt, "real aggressive" is just what he is right now, not what he gets when he has a big hand.
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Old 02-13-2005, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: 50 NL out of position against tilty LAG

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You do understand that just bc someone is LAG doesnt mean they loosely call raises

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this one rarely folded preflop.

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we need some info on what he has shown down for the 2nd hand

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he's shown down top pair/weak kicker in big pots, he's been caught bluffing with missed draws/bottom pair, he RAISED the river with JJ in the hand against me. his range of possible hands is large.
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Old 02-13-2005, 03:17 PM
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Hand 1 looks ok. Since you hold the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] it seems doubtful that SB is on a flush draw, so the check/call line seems good since he'll pay you off with a worse hand.

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actually this player doesn't care if his flush draw is to the nuts and he can raise from the SB with Kxs. i expected him to raise. but i have to pay him off when he does have the flush.
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Old 02-13-2005, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: 50 NL out of position against tilty LAG

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Does tilty mean...will call a large raise with Q10s...I mean perhaps me and you have a different understanding of the word tilt...last time I checked I sometimes caught huge hands while on tilt..

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tilty means will call a large raise with QTo, will call a large raise with 68o, will call a large raise with 22, will call a large raise with A5o. he can have a ten or a seven here.

tilty also means will pay off huge with weak hands, will make big bluffs when checked to and generally play irrationally.
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