Simple bubble hand

[davehwm]

I'm really trying to grasp this concept of 'pushing any two'. Obviously not truly any two, but should I be pushing at least these middle/high off suit hands?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

Hero (t1400)
SB (t1090)
BB (t1200)
UTG (t4310)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">UTG folds</font>, Hero?

[The Yugoslavian]

I very likely would -- but we've already established that you pwzn3d me earlier today on the bubble, [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]. And that I'm the worst 8tabling 11 SNG player in the history.

So, yeah.....there ya have it!

Yugoslav

[Scuba Chuck]

Why are you trying to grasp the concept of learning how to push any two? This seems like trying to learn how to jump with a snowboard, before you know how to snowboard. It's a little suicidal.

[davehwm]

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Why are you trying to grasp the concept of learning how to push any two? This seems like trying to learn how to jump with a snowboard, before you know how to snowboard. It's a little suicidal.

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I'm not sure I understand, can you explain? What should I be focusing on?

Maybe I am trying to steal too often from the button when 4-handed. Would pushing here be too aggressive?

[The Yugoslavian]

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Why are you trying to grasp the concept of learning how to push any two? This seems like trying to learn how to jump with a snowboard, before you know how to snowboard. It's a little suicidal.

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First, he doesn't have any two. He has Q9 which runs decent hot/cold HU if called.

Second, I don't snowboard and have no idea what you're talking about.

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Yugoslav

[curtains]

I fold the Q9o here. They call too much and after the blinds you still have plenty to steal with. Also someone may bust or get crippled before that.

[The Yugoslavian]

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I fold the Q9o here.


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Fair enough.

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They call too much


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I'm not so sure about this. You have both covered and as long as they're not big maniacs there is *plenty* of FE here.

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and after the blinds you still have plenty to steal with.


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Well yes. But...
#1, this looks like a good spot to steal.
#2, if you want to be 'stealing' with a better hand, that probably qualifies as value raising

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Also someone may bust or get crippled before that.

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Yes...this may very well be enough to offset the FE you have here justifying a push. Hmmm, poker is tricky like this.

I still push and ICM/Easty-style push assumptions back me up that it's +$EV [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Although you're a better SNG player and can afford more to pass up this opportunity for a better one probably.

Yugoslav

[Scuba Chuck]

FWIW, this looks like a great opportunity to let one of the other guys make a mistake. That's really +$EV.

BTW, I've never snowboarded before. Nor jumped. I turn 31 this week, that looks suicidal.

[curtains]

Of course there is tons of folding equity but you really just don't need to do it right now. Let's see if someone busts in the next 4 hands. We will still have plenty of chips after the blinds pass, and our FE isn't hurt very much, meanwhile a lot of good things can happen. If my hand was stronger I'd move allin here.
Also these idiots love to call with KJo, A6 all the time.

[Scuba Chuck]

Yugo, I think this is why you're getting 1.9% ROI!

I think you'd benefit from reviewing some HH's of your bubble play. And when I say bubble play, I mean 4 handed play. Being patient here, and letting others make mistakes is a decent play, IMO. I'm always amazed how anxious others get in this situation. Are you feeling anxious?