First hand post, don't spare me

Nilbud · #1 02-10-2005, 10:41 AM

I've been playing seriously about two months, about 7000 hands. I'm most of the way through SSH, but it's a lot to take in and apply correctly in a short amount of time. Any help with situations like this (mid pair made hand, nasty flop) would be appreciated.

Limit Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls, CO calls, Hero calls, SB raises, BB calls, MP calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets, BB calls, MP folds, CO folds, Hero....

JordanIB · #2 02-10-2005, 10:42 AM

Folds, watches the action and the hands, and waits patiently for the dealer to give him 2 more cards on the next hand.

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I've been playing seriously about two months, about 7000 hands. I'm most of the way through SSH, but it's a lot to take in and apply correctly in a short amount of time. Any help with situations like this (mid pair made hand, nasty flop) would be appreciated.

Limit Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls, CO calls, Hero calls, SB raises, BB calls, MP calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets, BB calls, MP folds, CO folds, Hero....

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Nilbud · #3 02-10-2005, 10:46 AM

Yeah, that's what I thought. But what if the flop comes A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]? Does that change to a call, or do I fold to any flop with two overcards?

DMBFan23 · #4 02-10-2005, 10:46 AM

hero folds. a raise from the blinds usually means a strong hand, and that flop is more likely to hit him than if he were, let's say, a button raiser. even if he only has high cards he has 9 outs twice against you, and there's the BB to worry about as well, who while I don't figure him for an ace, I suspect may have a ten. (of course an ace is possible too) even if BB only has high cards, your hand is likely to not be good by showdown if in fact you are best now. combine that with the high likelihood that you are behind and this is a pretty easy fold for me.

jaxUp · #5 02-10-2005, 10:50 AM

Depending on the table, I would definitely consider raising this with just a few limpers. I am folding this flop without hesitation. (It's always good to post your reads as well)

EDIT: I mean raising pre flop, not on flop!!!

jaxUp · #6 02-10-2005, 10:53 AM

two overs to a mid pocket pair is bad news. I would fold to and AT3 flop as well, unless it was a huge pot and I had odds to draw. The pot isn't nearly big enough here

Nilbud · #7 02-10-2005, 10:56 AM

If I had any reads, I don't remember them at this stage. But I certainly remember thinking about raising PF. I didn't do it thought, because I'm trying to play PF completely by the numbers, for the time being. Once I have that down completely, I'll look at situations where I can play differently, depending on the circumstances.

I knew I should have folded, but I was temporarily blinded by the flush potential and hit call.

vulturesrow · #8 02-10-2005, 10:59 AM

What flush potential?

Nilbud · #9 02-10-2005, 11:09 AM

sorry, that should have read full house, not flush.

JordanIB · #10 02-10-2005, 11:12 AM

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What flush potential?

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I believe he was referring to the "flush full house": 3 of a suit over 2 of a suit. With 22 outs (granted not all may be clean), the pot is clearly large enough for a flop call.