why is it that i can kill live games but lose online

[Cory Neely]

when i play live i play 4/8-10/20 and i can kill the games for around 4-5 bb an hour. when i play online i lose that much. i would like to play online and win like i do in person but cant. anyone else have this problem? any thoughts?

[lehighguy]

1) Online is harder then live.
2) What is your sample size life, its probably way to small. You shouldn't be able to win more then 1BB/hour live over the long run.
3) You can't use reads online. After all, the fact that my friend in my home game has a tell whenever he hits a flush sure helps my winrate.

[lehighguy]

P.S.
2) Assumes standard casino rake, you could win a lot more in a home game.

[tylerdurden]

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You shouldn't be able to win more then 1BB/hour live over the long run.

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Huh? 1BB/hour is "respectable" but certainly isn't some theoretical long-term barrier.

[Michael Davis]

In games lower than 10-20 you can make 1 bb/hour just by being fairly decent.

The most likely answer is simply that online games are much tougher than live games. Other possible answers include online tilting or an inability to deal with the speed of the game (these are related).

-Michael

[David Steele]

Assuming you don't have too much experience yet, one reason is that playing online you usually play much faster.

The live play lets you take your time in coming up with your move, you automatically think while the play slowly goes around the table til your turn, but online you may be moving before you have really thought enough about what to do. You can fire off a bad call or a reraise online that you might not make if you had thought carefully. It can be a kind of video game rapid-fire metality.

With a little experience it is very easy to play at the faster rate and even multitable.


D.

[The13atman]

Like everyone else has said, online games are tougher. I don't know about the live games you play in, but the live 3-6 I've played is softer than the 0.5/1 on Party. Therefore, 10-20 live is probably really closer to 3-6 online in terms of difficulty and the skill of your opponents. Are you playing the same limits live as online? This could be the biggest fact I think. Just my 2 cents.

[Reef]

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online games are

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more difficult

[stinkypete]

chances are it's because you're a losing player, and you've been lucky in your live games.

[Lawrence Ng]

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when i play live i play 4/8-10/20 and i can kill the games for around 4-5 bb an hour.

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No one and I mean no one sustains a 4-5 BB/hr live rate in any game even if it was rake free.

Lawrence