I count 10 solid outs on the turn -- right?

sf340flier · #1 02-05-2005, 05:30 PM

Trying to review my play? Looking for leaks...any problems with this one? Thanks.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, 4 folds, Button calls, SB completes, Hero raises, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, UTG+2 folds, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

River: (13 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $3 (All-In), Button calls, Hero raises, Button calls.

Final Pot: 17.25 BB

ghostface · #2 02-05-2005, 05:33 PM

Uhh...perfect.

What exactly dp you feel bad about? Only way to play that different is c/r the flop, but I'd wait till the turn blanks to show all the aggression. It worked out well for you in the end.

JackWilson · #3 02-05-2005, 05:35 PM

I dunno about betting the turn. It's 100% sure you will have to improve to win this hand, and with 10 outs the odds are 3.6 - 1 against. You're getting 3.5 from the pot on the turn by betting, and you open yourself up to a raise. Check/call I think is better, giving you correct odds.

sf340flier · #4 02-05-2005, 05:36 PM

Thanks, I was actually wondering about that.

_Kevin_ · #5 02-05-2005, 05:37 PM

I wouldn't have bet out. With 3 opponents, someone almost certainly has a heart and they will fold without one. You do have 10 outs so you only need 3.6:1 to make the call profitable (which you have).

I would check/call the turn and fold the river unimproved and check raise if the board pairs.

ghostface · #6 02-05-2005, 05:39 PM

I need to read these hands more than I do. Didnt see you bet the turn.

What they said...

JackWilson · #7 02-05-2005, 05:43 PM

I'm interested in where the 3.6:1 comes from? What else are you counting that I'm not?

_Kevin_ · #8 02-05-2005, 05:50 PM

We've seen 6 cards meaning 46 unseen. 10 of these make our hands, 36 don't. Therefore the odds we need are 36:10 or 3.6:1.

JackWilson · #9 02-05-2005, 05:53 PM

Well yes, quite right. I was being incredibly stupid, made a terrible mistake lol...

sigh