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Old 02-05-2005, 10:20 AM
Hawkeye27 Hawkeye27 is offline
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Default Take a stand or fold to ITM?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (5 handed) converter

SB (t3023)
Hero (t1280)
UTG (t2332)
MP (t890)
Button (t475)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t300</font>, <font color="#666666">Folded to me.

Final Pot: t450
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Old 02-05-2005, 10:26 AM
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Default Re: Take a stand or fold to ITM?

Here's where a read on UTG helps. But I think u miss the other option.

Hero calls getting 2-1 and sees the flop which hits him at exactly the same rate. I don't like a push here since it is an UTG raise. Definately can't see folding. You have &gt; than 10BB so no need to push yet.
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Old 02-05-2005, 10:30 AM
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Default Re: Take a stand or fold to ITM?

push.

You can't guarantee that you can fold into the money. In fact, it's pretty unlikely that you will be able to. You aren't very far in front of MP. If MP wins one pot, he could very well pull in front of you. This is the stage of the tourny where you need to start beeing ultra aggressive.
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Old 02-05-2005, 11:09 AM
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Default Re: Take a stand or fold to ITM?

Tough call here. I don;t think I would fold but not sure if I would push or call to see the flop...would like to hear what others say about this.
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Old 02-05-2005, 12:31 PM
Hawkeye27 Hawkeye27 is offline
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Default I folded...

and felt really weak doing so. Out of position I didnt want to call and have to fold the best hand on the flop when I dont hit. If I push here usually I'll get called. ($20 tourney). I have to respect an UTG raise as a "stronger than a steal" hand. Putting him on A/10 and up and 77 and up it feels like a coin flip and I felt like I had a better than 50% chance of making the $$ if I dont play this hand.

Is my thinking flawed? Is this hand just to strong to lay down?
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Old 02-05-2005, 12:49 PM
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Default Re: I folded...

Curious, did you get in the money?
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Old 02-05-2005, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: I folded...

in any which case, folding preflop is not an option w/AQ.

aggressive: if you push, it's a coin flip if he has pocket pair. you're a dog if he has ak. you're ahead otherwise.

safe: if you call, and check/fold if the flop doesn't help, you still have 9BB. you are not in any danger of blinding out.

i would push. there's the added fold equity.
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Old 02-05-2005, 01:03 PM
Hawkeye27 Hawkeye27 is offline
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Default no

The other middle stack doubled up, and I lost a race to finish 4th, meh.
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Old 02-06-2005, 09:01 AM
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Default Re: Take a stand or fold to ITM?

Got to push this, you are going to have to double up at some point to get in the money... If you get outdrawn you get outdrawn and move on but more times than not by pushing here you get in the money...
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Old 02-06-2005, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: Take a stand or fold to ITM?

this is a legitimate close decision.

i think pushing is often right against strong-aggressive tourney players. folding is definitely right against some of the more tight-passive players

calling is rough. i would only call against a particular type of player: one who is somewhat loose and somewhat passive.

this is a judgement call that you must make based on your read.
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