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Old 01-29-2005, 02:41 AM
syphlix syphlix is offline
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Default flop middle pair backdoor flush

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utg is typical la/p...

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6 BB

was i right to fold to the turn lead?
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Old 01-29-2005, 02:47 AM
adamstewart adamstewart is offline
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Default Re: flop middle pair backdoor flush

RAISE PREFLOP.


But since you didn't... fold the flop. It's only 5 small bets when the action's to you. Even if all your outs are clean (3 Aces, 2 Ten's, and 1.5 for backdoor flush = 6.5), you're not getting the odds to continue in this hand.

If there's any doubt, look at your read: "utg is typical la/p..."

(Fold on the turn is definitely correct.)


Adam


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Old 01-29-2005, 03:59 AM
j0n_blayze j0n_blayze is offline
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Default Re: flop middle pair backdoor flush

there are two people to act after you after you get bet into on the flop... fold the small pot.
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Old 01-29-2005, 04:10 AM
Chairman Wood Chairman Wood is offline
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Default Re: flop middle pair backdoor flush

Raise Preflop, this hand would play totally different had you did this.
Flop: Your opponent is La/P, meaning his betting here probably indicates top pair or better. On first glance it looks like you probably have 6 outs. You're close but still on the bad side of getting correct odds from the pot and you aren't closing the action. This is a fold. When you look a little deeper this is more clear due to possible straight that may already exist and your A could complete an OESD. Thus your 6 outs are pretty tainted.
Turn:Since you are still around definately fold the turn.
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