I sucked out some good hands, but IMO they played real bad

RutgersKev · #1 01-27-2005, 05:37 PM

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 raises, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets, Button calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets, Button calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

River: (11.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Button calls.

Final Pot: 15.25 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has 6c 5c (three of a kind, fives).
MP2 has 9s 9h (two pair, nines and fives).
MP3 has Qh Qd (two pair, queens and fives).
Button has Ks Kh (two pair, kings and fives).
Outcome: Hero wins 15.25 BB. 

I called in the BB with 2 suited cards like Small Stakes Holdem says, and then got a monster flop with my hand. Did I suck them out or or did the big pairs just play this hand real bad?

TwoShedsJackson · #2 01-27-2005, 05:43 PM

In ascending order of the pairs they had their play was poor, bad, and terrible - Button would be on my buddy list after this hand. Yes you sucked out, but they allowed you to - nice hand [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

zram21 · #3 01-27-2005, 05:44 PM

You played your hand fine. The QQ hand played the hand fine. The other two played the hand poorly.

zram21 · #4 01-27-2005, 05:46 PM

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In ascending order of the pairs they had their play was poor, bad, and terrible - Button would be on my buddy list after this hand. Yes you sucked out, but they allowed you to - nice hand [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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How was QQ's play bad? That particular villan raised preflop, led the flop and the turn, and slowed down when the BB who was just calling along suddenly leads out when the board pairs. That's how QQ should have been played in this hand.

threei · #5 01-27-2005, 05:46 PM

This isn't a suckout, you flopped a pair with an oe str8 draw and a backdoor flush. Did they play their big pairs bad? Yes. But even if they jammed the flop and turn I'm not going anywhere with such a big draw and lots of money in the pot.

soko · #6 01-27-2005, 05:47 PM

Are you looking for any comments here? You had odds to draw and you did. Yeah they suck. Anything else?

RutgersKev · #7 01-27-2005, 05:54 PM

I'm looking to say if someone jams me do I get out on the turn

Eeepus · #8 01-27-2005, 06:03 PM

Shouldn't you have check- raised on the flop? Or would that have been bad?

Eeepus

Marquis · #9 01-27-2005, 06:05 PM

I'd bet the flop and checkraise the river.

Argus · #10 01-27-2005, 06:45 PM

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I'd bet the flop and checkraise the river.

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I like this line. You're on a strong draw and want to pump the pot on the flop. You missed the turn so check/call to set up the check/raise if you hit the river, which you did. You might have been able to set a pretty good river trap if MP3 continued his aggression, but even if he doesn't you're making much more with a check/raise here.