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Old 01-27-2005, 03:13 PM
Fianchetto Fianchetto is offline
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Default Why is QJs one of my worst performers?

QJs is one of my biggest leaks and I’m trying to figure out why.

I open for a raise with it if I’m first in from MP or later. I’ll usually limp up front with it unless the game is real aggressive, and I will cold call 2 bets with it from any position if I can expect a multiway pot.

Hand#1

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (3 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Uggg.. I don’t like getting popped on the turn; I put BB on two pair or better, UTG on some kind of draw. I resolve to call the turn and fold the river unimproved.

River: (9 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero folds, BB calls.

Okay, I improved but the J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] just completed flush draws, and straight draws. I planned to check and call one bet. Facing two cold on the river I was getting 6:1, so my hand has to be good about what 15% of the time, but what can I beat now that UTG came to life?

Comments on all streets appreciated.

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Hand#2

My main questions on this hand are on the early streets.

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (10.66 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

What do you think of the flop raise? I have a gutshot to the nuts, two overcards, and a backdoor flush draw. Obviously I will be continuing, so I thought by raising rather than calling maybe I can clean up my Q or J outs, and give myself a free card on the turn. Didn’t quite work out that way…..

Turn: (13.33 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero folds, BB folds, UTG calls.

Good fold? I put UTG+1 on a very strong hand, at least an overpair or maybe a set. I figured I had 4 clean outs if somebody doesn't already have a straight. However the pot was offering me a pretty good price if my two pair/trips outs are live.

Comments on all streets appreciated.

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