a more basic book

[walterberk]

I started playing around September last year. In the past mopmnth I read SS and SSH. I feel like some of the concepts in SSH required some more basic information that I'm missing (or I'm just retarded). What would be a worthwhile read for me, something on the more basic side, preferably geard towards no limit

[Niediam]

I honestly don't think that there is currently a good book on the market which would satisfy your needs. I know Miller is currently working on a book (I'll assume based on SSH that it will be a well written book) for beginning holdem players which has sections on no limit, limit, and tournaments. I believe it is scheduled to be published sometime this summer.

[maurile]

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I started playing around September last year. In the past mopmnth I read SS and SSH. I feel like some of the concepts in SSH required some more basic information that I'm missing (or I'm just retarded). What would be a worthwhile read for me, something on the more basic side, preferably geard towards no limit

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Very basic fixed-limit book: Lee Jones (Slightly less basic: Matt Hilger)

Very basic no-limit book: Daugherty & McEvoy

[Stew]

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I started playing around September last year. In the past mopmnth I read SS and SSH. I feel like some of the concepts in SSH required some more basic information that I'm missing (or I'm just retarded). What would be a worthwhile read for me, something on the more basic side, preferably geard towards no limit

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Are you playing online and do you have a decent feel and understanding of the game? If so, I'd recommend Theory of Poker. Trust me, you will definitely not understand it in it's entirety the first time you read it, but it will help fill in the theoretical concepts that are discussed in the books you have read.

If you feel your limit game needs assitance you could try ITH by Hilger, but I think SSH is something you should re-read, play and re-read and you'll be fine. As far as NO LIMIT goes, I agree with Maurile on the Daugherty/McEvoy book as an excellent starter book, although I am highly looking forward to Miller/Sklansky's book that is due out this year for NL cash games.

[binions]

How about Theory of Poker (admittedly not basic, but explains the core concepts you need to know) or Sklansky's original Hold'em Poker?

[walterberk]

I only play nolimit and have a pretty good understanding. But I feel like a good deal of the concepts in SSH, even though it is for limit games,are lost with me. Maybe it's because I play nolimit, maybe it's because my previous knowledge is all based on experience. I don't know really. I'm thinking about making TOP my next read but possibly NL and PL poker by C+R.

[Stew]

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I only play nolimit and have a pretty good understanding. But I feel like a good deal of the concepts in SSH, even though it is for limit games,are lost with me. Maybe it's because I play nolimit, maybe it's because my previous knowledge is all based on experience. I don't know really. I'm thinking about making TOP my next read but possibly NL and PL poker by C+R.

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even if your main game is NL, I would definitely recommend you read TOP next, since you have a basic understanding of NL, then scratch the Daugherty/McEvoy book off the list. Go with TOP then the Ciaffone/Reuben book after that and then probably Improve Your Poker by Ciaffone.

[jdaddy]

I really liked SSH. I to play only NL, however it really gave me the insight to what some of the weaker players at PP/EP $25/$50 NL were thinking. I scored the Hilger ITH through a sign up code on his site (signed copy .... oooo). Good basic run down of counting and discounting outs, pot odds, implied odds, etc. TOP is not the place to look for the basic info you are looking for rather TOP helps you learn how to think about poker play and why you are making plays. Like SS it covers a lot of different games like razz, etc however it is always teaching you how to contemplate why you are making the move rather than telling you what move to make.
The intro no limits books hitting the shelfs this month are going to fill a real void.

[Stew]

I really liked SSH. I to play only NL, however it really gave me the insight to what some of the weaker players at PP/EP $25/$50 NL were thinking. I scored the Hilger ITH through a sign up code on his site (signed copy .... oooo). Good basic run down of counting and discounting outs, pot odds, implied odds, etc. TOP is not the place to look for the basic info you are looking for rather TOP helps you learn how to think about poker play and why you are making plays. Like SS it covers a lot of different games like razz, etc however it is always teaching you how to contemplate why you are making the move rather than telling you what move to make.
The intro no limits books hitting the shelfs this month are going to fill a real void.

Excellent point which is exactly why I recommend TOP as what he should read next. Even more imporant to NL than Limit is the reasoning behind why you are doing something than just a cookie-cutter action-reaction method that works better for limit. In other words, in Limit you have top pair, you have probably two actions if you have a decent kicker...bet or check for a check-raise either on the turn or the river depending on the texture of the board. In NL it isn't quite that easy and understanding the reasonings behind your plays is as important or even more important in my opinion than what the exact plays are.

[bolgenmod]

I'm surprised that no one's yet mentioned Harrington. It's a great book, focused on NL and on tournaments, although his advice in book 1 probably applies to ring games as well. And although his thinking is (no surprise) quite advanced, I think he's very clear in his explanations. I'd recommend HOH much more than TOP if you're a NL player.