how do you play this

MattC · #1 01-21-2005, 02:17 AM

both of these guys like to check raise. how would you play this, but more importantly should i value bet the river here?:

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Hero calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: (3.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

River: (3.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 3.25 BB

Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) · #2 01-21-2005, 02:18 AM

1) raise preflop
2) bet the river

mr pink · #3 01-21-2005, 02:28 AM

i'd raise preflop for a start.

bet the river.

MattC · #4 01-21-2005, 02:34 AM

thanks guys for your response.

Nick C · #5 01-21-2005, 02:35 AM

I'm not as adamant about raising AJo preflop in an unraised pot as some of the other posters here are, but usually I do, and I certainly would in LP after just one limper, unless that limper was ultra-tight.

The flop and turn seem fine to me, but I think you should bet the river. There's a good chance everyone will fold anyway on this four-flush board, but I doubt a higher club or the 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] would check to you very often after the turn got checked through.

MattC · #6 01-21-2005, 02:38 AM

yeh thats where my dilemma was: these guys liked to check raise. so after it got checked around on the turn then the river, i thought maybe they checked the river again in hopes to check raise to make up for their missed opportunity at the turn.

am i ahead often enough to make the value bet worth it?

Nick C · #7 01-21-2005, 02:53 AM

Well, there are four cards that beat you, but I'd bet and take my chances. I think people with straights and pairs might call, especially since the turn got checked through, and they might suspect a bluff.

A checkraise would be annoying, but I'd call one here, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if I called that checkraise and beat a worse flush or even a bluff on this scary board.

MattC · #8 01-21-2005, 03:15 AM

thanks nickc for your help.

Rooster71 · #9 01-21-2005, 09:24 AM

I would have raised preflop and bet the river. I know what you mean about being worried about a check-raise, but in this situation they may even try a check raise with a lower flush. Betting the river is best.