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Old 01-20-2005, 03:33 PM
o0mr_bill0o o0mr_bill0o is offline
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Default KTs flopped the nuts. turn - no longer the nuts

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: (3.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB folds.

Turn: (2.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB

Anyone 3-bet this turn? Play anything else differently?
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Old 01-20-2005, 03:40 PM
krishanleong krishanleong is offline
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Default Re: KTs flopped the nuts. turn - no longer the nuts

3-bet the turn and call down if capped. Otherwise, lead the river call a raise.

A straight in a 3-handed pot is a monster hand. I wouldn't worry about the flush quite yet.

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Old 01-20-2005, 03:45 PM
Vee Quiva Vee Quiva is offline
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Default Re: KTs flopped the nuts. turn - no longer the nuts

Let's do a little math:

After the turn raise there is 5.75 bets in the pot. If you are going to call here, then you are also going to call the river. If you go to the river and win you will win one extra bet. So your effective odds are 6.75 to 2 or 3.4 to 1. So the question is whether your opponent is bluffing more than 30% of the time.

Statistically this is probably a fold on the turn. That said with small stakes I am probably making the crying calls because it's darn hard to give up a straight heads up. Plus you don't want to be seen folding to a raise too often or a good opponent will pick up on it.
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Old 01-20-2005, 03:46 PM
Vee Quiva Vee Quiva is offline
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Default Re: KTs flopped the nuts. turn - no longer the nuts

It's two handed after the flop.
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Old 01-20-2005, 03:47 PM
RyGreen18 RyGreen18 is offline
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Default Re: KTs flopped the nuts. turn - no longer the nuts

villian is likely raising with the K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], gotta 3-bet this turn
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Old 01-20-2005, 03:57 PM
krishanleong krishanleong is offline
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Default Re: KTs flopped the nuts. turn - no longer the nuts

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Statistically this is probably a fold on the turn.

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This is horrible. Villian could have a pair with the Kh, two pair, 44, Qhx. He doesn't have to bluffing 30% for you to call down. He could very well have the worst hand.

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