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Old 01-19-2005, 10:20 PM
Nate tha' Great Nate tha' Great is offline
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Default Teaching a friend (semi-hypothetical)

I had a good friend ask me tonight to teach him how to play poker. I don't know that he was entirely serious about it, and I don't know that he has the right sort of temperment for the game, but it got me to thinking:

Suppose that Ed Miller took a random American adult, and gave him the following:

- A year's worth of intensive lessons, twice a week for four hours per session.

- A bankroll for 100,000 hands of low-limit Texas Hold 'em, defined as 2/4 Party Poker or 5/10 B&M.

- An Internet-ready computer

- A full complement of 2+2 books. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

What is the percent chance that this adult would become a good enough poker player by the end of the year to be able to support himself by playing the game, defined as earning $50,000 annually?
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Old 01-19-2005, 10:27 PM
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Default Re: Teaching a friend (semi-hypothetical)

Would this random adult have the desire and drive to succeed, or would he be a lazy ass?
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Old 01-19-2005, 10:32 PM
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Would this random adult have the desire and drive to succeed, or would he be a lazy ass?

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Think of it as a prize package. This person is not obligated to use the lessons or the bankroll, any more than they'd be obligated to actually go to Paris if they won a trip to Paris. But everything is offered to him free of charge.

The only stipulation I'll place is that the bankroll is non-transferrable, meaning that it can be used for poker at the specified limits only.
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Old 01-19-2005, 10:28 PM
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a dedicated student: > 80%
a person with no interest: 0%

just my guesses...
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Old 01-19-2005, 10:37 PM
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a dedicated student: > 80%

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hmmm, upon thinking, its probably closer to 90 < x < 96 for those limits assuming the person works a full schedule and doesn't leak money on tilt or on other casino games...
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Old 01-19-2005, 10:34 PM
Piz0wn0reD!!!!!! Piz0wn0reD!!!!!! is offline
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Default Re: Teaching a friend (semi-hypothetical)

Me and balkii have/are teaching 5 people to play poker. One is already pro, one is almost pro, one is not even close, one is just too lazy and one i just started teaching like a week ago.
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Old 01-20-2005, 01:07 AM
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Me and balkii have/are teaching 5 people to play poker. One is already pro, one is almost pro, one is not even close, one is just too lazy and one i just started teaching like a week ago.

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Am I one of these 5 people? If so, which one?
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Old 01-19-2005, 11:20 PM
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depends on the time he puts in on his own trying to learn.
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Old 01-19-2005, 11:28 PM
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Don't know.

I'd think about 50% of adults have the mental capacity to become $50k an year good. Hard to make any estimate here though. I may be totally off.

Most random adult don't want to put the time and effort in. Maybe only 30% want to do that. Out of them I'd guess a third have the drive to do it. Then we're down to 10% there.

A bunch of estimates.

.50*.10 = .05 = 5%

A dedicated student is most often smartish and not lazy, so for one of those I'd guess it's very high. Over 80%.
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Old 01-19-2005, 11:44 PM
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~15%
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