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View Poll Results: Fold to a Check Raise
< 5% 4 23.53%
5% - 10% 7 41.18%
10%- 15% 5 29.41%
15% - 20% 1 5.88%
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Old 01-17-2005, 11:12 PM
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Default SSH Flop Choices Quiz (8 questions)

8 situations from this weekend. Pokertracker auto rate provided where &gt;50 hands with opponent.

Hand #1
Preflop: Hero is Button with As, Kh.
UTG=LPP calls, Hero raises, BB=LAP calls, UTG=LPP calls.
Flop: (6.50 SB) 2s, 5d, 9s (3 players)
BB=LAP checks, UTG bets, Hero ????

Hand #2
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8h, 9h.
MP1 calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.
Flop: (4 SB) Kh, As, 7h (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero ????

Hand #3
Preflop: Hero is BB with Ks, Qd.
UTG+1=sLAP calls, Button=TAA calls, SB=LPP completes, Hero checks.
Flop: (4 SB) As, Qc, Kh (4 players)
SB=LPP checks, Hero bets, UTG+1=sLAP calls, Button=TAA raises, SB=LPP folds, Hero ????

Hand #4
Preflop: Hero is Button with Jd, As.
MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero raises, SB=sLAP calls, BB=LPP calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.
Flop: (10 SB) 7s, 8d, 7h (5 players)
SB=sLAP checks, BB=LPP checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, Hero ????

Hand #5
Preflop: Hero is SB with As, Jh.
MP1 calls, CO raises, Hero calls, BB calls, MP1 calls.
Flop: (8 SB) 8h, Jd, Jc (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 bets, CO calls, Hero ????

Hand #6
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Kd, Ad.
Hero raises, MP3 calls, Button=LAP calls, SB calls.
Flop: (9 SB) 9c, 9s, 3c (4 players)
SB checks, Hero ????

Hand #7
Preflop: Hero is Button with Jd, Qh.
MP2=LAA calls, MP3=sLPP calls, Hero calls, SB=LPP completes, BB=LAP checks.
Flop: (5 SB) Qd, 2h, 8c (5 players)
SB=LPP checks, BB=LAP bets, MP2=LAA calls, MP3=sLPP calls, Hero ????

Hand #8
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Ks, Ah.
Hero raises, Button calls, BB calls.
Flop: (6.50 SB) Ts, 9c, Qd (3 players)
BB checks, Hero ????
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Old 01-17-2005, 11:34 PM
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Default Re: SSH Flop Choices Quiz (8 questions)

I don't know about other people, but this many hands at once boggles my mind. Try posting them individually for better results.

Also, you'll get more meaningful discussion-style responses if you don't do a poll.
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Old 01-18-2005, 01:09 AM
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Default Re: SSH Flop Choices Quiz (8 questions)

hands 3 and 5, i call the turn to hide my strength, and raise the turn when they don't expect it
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Old 01-18-2005, 11:40 AM
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Default Re: SSH Flop Choices Quiz (8 questions)

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I don't know about other people, but this many hands at once boggles my mind. Try posting them individually for better results.

Also, you'll get more meaningful discussion-style responses if you don't do a poll.

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks for the input, I did it this way intentionally, wanted to see a variety of responses before discussing hands in great detail. After I get a few more responses i'll step through the hands one by one.
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:08 PM
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Default I am uncomfortable with the pre-flop action on hand #5.

I am uncomfortable with the pre-flop action on hand #5. If you were on the button instead of the SB, this would be a fold most of the time, and a re-raise otherwise. If it were suited, a call would be ok.

As it is, I think I still would prefer a fold, or a reraise if I knew CO to be a loose raiser. Anyone else?
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:16 PM
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Default Re: SSH Flop Choices Quiz (8 questions)

I took the free card in hand 4, but I bet/raised/reraised everything else.
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Old 01-18-2005, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: SSH Flop Choices Quiz (8 questions)

I think everyone's out of line on #2. The pot is small, there's not much interest. You might pick it up right here, but what is likely to happen is that all but one person will fold. Worse, you could get check-raised (though I don't know anything about the opponents).

Getting check-raised in this tiny pot will annoy me much more than the 0.6 SB equity I get from betting is worth. Thus I check. If the pot was larger I would definitely bet. It seems counterintuitive, but really I win either way in that case. Either they call me and I gain from the calls, or they fold incorrectly.
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Old 01-18-2005, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: I am uncomfortable with the pre-flop action on hand #5.

Unless the raiser is LA or on a steal, I will muck this every time. Otherwise, I will 3 bet. I will never call here with this hand. Pump it or dump it.

Suited is different--most likely I will call, perhaps raising if I think I have the best of it (raise in LP by aggressive player).
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Old 01-18-2005, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: SSH Flop Choices Quiz (8 questions)

I hope I don't have a leak...this was the easiest question for me.
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Old 01-18-2005, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: SSH Flop Choices Quiz (8 questions)

#2:
easy bet. it positions you well on the turn to take a free card (when you really want one) or possibly fold a single turn opponent.

#1 was the least comfortable for me. i said call. let the loose player come to the turn with me. if i don't catch, i'm folding to a turn bet. can someone break down the flop raise in hand #1? the pot is obviously too small for a free card, so do you think you have the best hand that often (or can fold a better hand with a turn bet HU)?

my full answers:
1 - call
2 - bet
3 - raise
4 - bet
5 - raise
6 - bet
7 - raise
8 - bet
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