are these folds I should be making?

Alobar · #1 01-15-2005, 07:06 PM

no great read on this guy, wouldnt call him bad, wouldnt call him good either tho. just typical player. Should I fold to the turn 3 bet?

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, MP raises, Button folds, SB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.40 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.20 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero raises, MP 3-bets, Hero calls.

River: (9.20 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.20 BB

MikeNaked · #2 01-15-2005, 07:13 PM

I don't think so. There are a large range of hands you are ahead of. I like the call-down line.

I think it's a dubious preflop call tho.

Trix · #3 01-15-2005, 07:15 PM

HU with 2 pair, wtf?

Alobar · #4 01-15-2005, 07:18 PM

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HU with 2 pair, wtf?

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what do you put him on that I am ahead of after I checkraise him and he 3 bets. Im no LAG and generally only show down quality hands, so hes gotta assume I have something

Trix · #5 01-15-2005, 07:22 PM

Or that he can make you fold or that he can fold to a cap for sure and you will give him a free showdown.

He can do this with tons of hands, Ax being one. You will get abused if you make these folds, which is much worse than loosing a BB or whatever when behind, since they can start playing very aggro against you when they have nothing and thus move you off some pots that you should win.

Alobar · #6 01-15-2005, 07:27 PM

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Or that he can make you fold or that he can fold to a cap for sure and you will give him a free showdown.

He can do this with tons of hands, Ax being one. You will get abused if you make these folds, which is much worse than loosing a BB or whatever when behind, since they can start playing very aggro against you when they have nothing and thus move you off some pots that you should win.

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good point, I handt considered the long term ramifications if I started making these folds often, but since I rarely if ever make these folds I figured this would be a good one to make as I just didnt see myself being ahead.

Trix · #7 01-15-2005, 07:29 PM

Folding isnt the way to win heads up, aggression is and certainly if your opponents considers folding here.

Jonny · #8 01-15-2005, 07:35 PM

i would never fold this. I call down.

sinfulslick18 · #9 01-15-2005, 09:16 PM

This is ok to call down with... would not really think about folding this two pair..

-sinful

DrGutshot · #10 01-15-2005, 09:40 PM

with no read, i would fold preflop.

"typical" party player limps Ax, but does not raise it.

you're ahead of KQ/KJs/A8s. 50/50 to 77/88, and a huge dog to 99+, AT+. Also, being out of position makes this much more difficult to play.

-DrG