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Old 01-11-2005, 02:12 PM
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Chip spewing? I read him for aces preflop after he capped and maybe I should have just called down. I don't think I can fold these kings but he stop and go'ed me 3 times. I couldn't think of a hand that would cap preflop that I am ahead of.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG+2 posts a blind of $0.05.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 (poster) raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 caps</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (17.40 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 folds, Button calls, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (11.70 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, UTG+2 calls.

River: (17.70 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, UTG+2 calls.

Final Pot: 21.70 BB
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Old 01-11-2005, 02:24 PM
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Default Re: KK hand

UTG+2 sure likes the stop n go.

Pre-flop and flop are obviously fine. I also play the turn the same way though that's probably wrong considering that you're behind not only AA but also QQ and JJ.

When he leads off the river after getting raised on the turn, it's time to just call.
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Old 01-11-2005, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: KK hand

Not just broadway pairs, dude. If the guy held on to 52s (it is .5/1, after all) he's got you beat. Not to mention the more likely J9, suited or not.
I certainly wouldn't have folded it anywhere, but I might've been inclined to just call after the first stop-n-go.
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Old 01-11-2005, 02:38 PM
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I was thinking of pf capping hands.
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Old 01-11-2005, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: KK hand

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Not just broadway pairs, dude. If the guy held on to 52s (it is .5/1, after all) he's got you beat. Not to mention the more likely J9, suited or not.
I certainly wouldn't have folded it anywhere, but I might've been inclined to just call after the first stop-n-go.

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While it's .50/1, you have to put villain on reasonable cards after he raises and caps pre-flop (absent a good read).
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Old 01-11-2005, 02:39 PM
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Preflop and flop are standard.

I don't like the river raise. You can't really be that sure your hand is best so I would prefer to call hoping Button calls behind to sweeten the deal.

I would probably call down after the turn bet but raising isn't bad either.

Did you lose to QQ or JJ?
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Old 01-11-2005, 02:52 PM
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While it's .50/1, you have to put villain on reasonable cards after he raises and caps pre-flop (absent a good read).

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Yes, you should. My point is that even if he's a crazy-ass, maniac .5/1 player (I've seen plenty get into a raising war PF with any two suited cards and then ride it out to the end) playing two sh!tty cards, he could have you beat. I think his play is too squirrely to be this agressive without a solid read that he doesn't know what the hell he's doing.
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Old 01-11-2005, 03:06 PM
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I couldn't think of a hand that would cap preflop that I am ahead of.

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you're ahead of KA and some will cap TT. but, this would be highly irrational play from either of these hands the way it went.

I'm guessing villain had something like JJ or AA and is afraid of a set of Q's or a set period...?
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Old 01-11-2005, 03:10 PM
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He had AA.

It's what I put him on preflop because he capped and it's what he showed down. I regret raising the river.
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Old 01-11-2005, 03:12 PM
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you're far too quick to put an EP poster on AA.
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