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Old 01-11-2005, 01:51 AM
kpux kpux is offline
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Default anyone fold this KK?

I'm fairly new to NL100, so I don't have a lot of PT stats, but this guy seemed like a decent player. I hadn't seen him do anything too crazy yet.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (9 handed) converter

CO ($103.45)
Button ($228)
SB ($138.35)
Hero ($205.1)
UTG ($339.05)
UTG+1 ($228.05)
MP1 ($234.65)
MP2 ($102.45)
MP3 ($91)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $10</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB (poster) folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $33</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $25.

Flop: ($73) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero bets $50, MP1 raises all-in for $120 more, Hero...


EDIT: I really don't think that there are many hands that I'm ahead of here. What could he possibly have that I beat besides AQ? Could he even have AQ based on his call PF?
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Old 01-11-2005, 03:18 AM
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Default Re: anyone fold this KK?

Ouch, looks like he might have QQ most likely. Seems like he would of set you in preflop with AA.
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Old 01-11-2005, 03:22 AM
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Default Re: anyone fold this KK?

Seems like AK [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or AQ to me. If you're up against 22, it's an odd way for him to play it, but either way, I call.

EDIT: Just as an aside, there's no way that QQ is pushing here. Just look at how much value he's losing against a flush draw or even AA. Call and take it down.
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Old 01-11-2005, 05:04 AM
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Default Re: anyone fold this KK?

that's an awfully big reraise preflop ? It's 1/2 NL , right ? You raised to $33 ? I guess it depends on the table. That raise alone almost commits you . Doesn't it ?
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Old 01-11-2005, 05:25 AM
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Default Re: anyone fold this KK?

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that's an awfully big reraise preflop ? It's 1/2 NL , right ? You raised to $33 ? I guess it depends on the table. That raise alone almost commits you . Doesn't it ?

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i agree, i feel youre pot committed pretty much and you are most likely ahead. QQ wouldnt want to push you out of the pot just yet. AKs looks like a likely hand here. could be AA but that is a tricky player if he played it that way.
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Old 01-11-2005, 06:16 AM
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Default Re: anyone fold this KK?

I see a few possibilities here, very few of which look good for you.

AK spades: I can understand him calling you, but the push is just outlandish.
AQ: The preflop raise and call say otherwise to me. But then again, I'm new and don't even use Pokertracker, so...
AA: Possible. Not likely... I'd understand a min-raise more than a push here.
QQ: His play makes sense, unless....
Q2: If he's this horrid, give me his screenname.
22: See Q2.

Given how big your stack is, I'd give him credit for AA/QQ and lay it down. If shortstacked, I'd probably call him down just to keep him honest.
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Old 01-11-2005, 08:57 AM
Piz0wn0reD!!!!!! Piz0wn0reD!!!!!! is offline
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Default Re: anyone fold this KK?

You have to call here. Folding w/o a super read is bad.

Villan will flip over TONS of hands that you are crushing.
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Old 01-11-2005, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: anyone fold this KK?

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that's an awfully big reraise preflop ? It's 1/2 NL , right ? You raised to $33 ? I guess it depends on the table. That raise alone almost commits you . Doesn't it ?

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I reraised to $35 out of the BB with KK after he raised to $10 preflop in EP. Surely this is standard.
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Old 01-11-2005, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: anyone fold this KK?

I thought for a long time, grit my teeth and called. Thinking about the hand afterwards, I figure QQ would slowplay as he wouldn't want me to laydown AA or KK. I immediately ruled out a 2, and thought the only real possibilities were AQ and AKs, maybe AA.

Anyways, he had JJ. Anyone want to explain that one?
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Old 01-11-2005, 02:33 PM
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I do I do. He's a retard.
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