KQo raised preflop.

matt hooley · #1 01-10-2005, 01:35 PM

This seemed weird at the time but I think calling down might be correct given the texture of the flop and the action. I didn't figure to be strong enough to make a flop raise profitable. Thoughts?

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, Hero raises, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, CO calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, CO calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 11.25 BB

shadow29 · #2 01-10-2005, 01:44 PM

I think you can safely fold on the river.

LowDown22 · #3 01-10-2005, 01:50 PM

This ones tough for me. I think I would have raised the flop though. I'd like to force out CO if he's got a T so I can free up my Q outs, plus it may give me a chance for a free card on the turn. I'd like to hear some other opinions on this one.

VBM · #4 01-10-2005, 01:55 PM

pre-flop: eh...ur a little early to try and buy the button, so i'd probably just call.

flop: i might try to raise and buy a free turn card, but a 3-bet would suck. hopefully CO would go play w/ himself instead of calling 2.

turn: if i did get 3-bet on the flop, and UTG+1 is still betting into me, i call hoping for a T, a K, a Q ...

river: a blank & UTG+1 still betting into me = me folding.
edit: i may call, if i have a specific read that UTG+1 will bet with a 2nd best pair or bet a busted draw hoping to win it...but very read-specific. for typical opponents, i take the fold line.

hope you won!
--oj.

shadow29 · #5 01-10-2005, 03:05 PM

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pre-flop: eh...ur a little early to try and buy the button, so i'd probably just call.

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Dude, you should be raising preflop every time here.

VBM · #6 01-10-2005, 03:36 PM

y'think? i dunno...maybe i'm too much of a puss w/ KQo...

davelin · #7 01-10-2005, 03:38 PM

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y'think? i dunno...maybe i'm too much of a puss w/ KQo...

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Yeah this is a pre-flop raise.

ArthurD · #8 01-10-2005, 04:11 PM

I think that you MUST raise the flop. Try and steal the button, buy extra outs, and maybe buy yourself a free card. It will tell you where you stand with regards to the bettor. He could be betting trash. I would raise the flop, go from there.

Jeff P · #9 01-10-2005, 02:01 PM

I might fold this one on the turn, and I'm curious as to what others might say about that. With no reads I'm not sure what I'd do here, but I lean toward folding the turn (is that too weak/tight?) facing two opponents, and the fact that CO has overcalled this flop and cold-called PF.

I think hero has just enough odds to call on the flop, with 6 outs (2 Kings for a likely winner, and 4 Tens that might end up splitting the pot), but I sure wouldn't raise this flop.

Jasmien · #10 01-10-2005, 02:06 PM

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I might fold this one on the turn, and I'm curious as to what others might say about that. With no reads I'm not sure what I'd do here, but I lean toward folding the turn (is that too weak/tight?) facing two opponents, and the fact that CO has overcalled this flop and cold-called PF.

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why fold here? You have at least (!) 6 outs (4 tens, 2 kings). Getting 6.25-1 this is an easy call (CO will probably call and youll get at least one bet on the river)