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Old 01-09-2005, 05:30 PM
J.A.Sucker J.A.Sucker is offline
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Default 10-10-20 NL Hand with Ray Zee

After being in some great must move action, I'm moved to the main game. Game isn't very good at this point, with lots of tricky players, including Zee. It's folded to Ray, who opens from the cutoff for 80 bucks. He has 4K and I've got 2K.

It's folded to me in the BB and I have AA.

What do you do?
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Old 01-09-2005, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: 10-10-20 NL Hand with Ray Zee

Flat call and bust his ass.
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Old 01-09-2005, 06:16 PM
Cornell Fiji Cornell Fiji is offline
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Default Re: 10-10-20 NL Hand with Ray Zee

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Flat call and bust his ass.

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200-250 to go (dependung on what is the 'standard' reraise amount at this table.) You want to be able to put him on a hand and charge him for playing 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hope an ace flopped and he had called you with AK or you hit set over set or something big. (although I suspect you raised and he mucked, ni han!)

Obviously by flat calling you would have to go into slowplaying aces mode where you would either let him catch up or bet you off of your hand.

Hope it worked out.

-Steve
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Old 01-09-2005, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: 10-10-20 NL Hand with Ray Zee

Mine was obviously not a strategy post.
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Old 01-09-2005, 06:29 PM
TStoneMBD TStoneMBD is offline
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Default Re: 10-10-20 NL Hand with Ray Zee

fold. you cant beat ray zee.
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Old 01-09-2005, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: 10-10-20 NL Hand with Ray Zee

Make it 200 to go. He'll call with a lot of hands with position. Bet the flop HARD unless its really nasty.
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Old 01-09-2005, 07:34 PM
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Default Re: 10-10-20 NL Hand with Ray Zee

if I am going to reraise, I think I would overbet it slightly make it look like I dont want a call with 88-QQ.

make it like $250-275 or so.

although I know LA is joking, i dont want to dance with the devil with no idea what he might be holding.
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Old 01-09-2005, 09:03 PM
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Default Re: 10-10-20 NL Hand with Ray Zee

Fold and ask for a free copy of 7CSFAP [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:56 PM
coltrane coltrane is offline
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Default Re: 10-10-20 NL Hand with Ray Zee

given the size of your stack (which is in that weird not-huge but not-short-stack range) and the fact that it's Ray Zee and he's got position on you, I think a reraise to $200 is a bad idea.....it would create an uncomfortable situation because you're defining your hand to a very good player and making a weird middling sort of pot size on the flop.....

one better option IMO would be to really bomb bet it - make it something $350-400 to go......most likely he won't call you (that's okay), and if he does, the hand is a cinch to play on the flop because of your stack size.....and, if he does actually happen to have a hand (kings or queens or something) and thinks you might be making a move (I don't know what your image is), you might be in a good situation....

another option would be to flat call his raise.....you've got a good hand that he won't put you on and you can either win a little money post-flop by playing a small pot with him or possibly win a big one if you flop a monster and he flops something nice (imagine an A87 or A77 type of flop if he's in there with 87).....
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Old 01-10-2005, 01:31 AM
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Default Re: 10-10-20 NL Hand with Ray Zee

I feel like flatcalling is some kind of challenge, and that you should take that challenge.
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