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Old 01-09-2005, 01:56 PM
Haupt_234 Haupt_234 is offline
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Default Set vs. Probable draw - Round 1

I'm having trouble with these types of hands. The villan in this certain hand just sat down so I didn't have a clear read, so lets just assume he is semi-loose and typical for arguemental purposes.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

<font color="blue">He could have a made hand here, but I am leaning towards him having a draw. I have seen these types of players bet into the PF raiser with a draw more times than top pair. So I wait to raise the turn when hopefully a blank card falls. </font>

Turn: (3.16 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

<font color="blue">Not exactly a blank. This is where I have trouble. Either he has the straight, and I am behind with a bunch of outs, or I am ahead and may scare him off the pot with a raise. I call? </font>

River: (5.16 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

<font color="blue">Yahtzee. </font>

Final Pot: 9.16 BB

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Old 01-09-2005, 02:55 PM
Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) is offline
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Default Re: Set vs. Probable draw - Round 1

This board is so draw heavy that I would just raise the flop, because so many scare cards can come on the turn that will convince you not to raise there.
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Old 01-09-2005, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: Set vs. Probable draw - Round 1

Raise the flop and try to find out what you're up against. Draw heavy board, don't get greedy take it down when you can.
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Old 01-09-2005, 07:37 PM
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Old 01-09-2005, 08:21 PM
Rudbaeck Rudbaeck is offline
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Default Re: Set vs. Probable draw - Round 1

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This board is so draw heavy that I would just raise the flop, because so many scare cards can come on the turn that will convince you not to raise there.

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I agree. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 01-09-2005, 08:28 PM
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Default Re: Set vs. Probable draw - Round 1

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This board is so draw heavy that I would just raise the flop, because so many scare cards can come on the turn that will convince you not to raise there.



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Ok, so I raise the flop and he calls. The K or a [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] comes on the turn, he checks and I bet. Is there no way around opening yourself up to a checkraise on a draw heavy board?

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Draw heavy board, don't get greedy take it down when you can.

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I am not getting greedy and waiting to raise the turn "for value". My gut feeling is that the board is so draw heavy, I can't take it down now. A draw isn't folding to a flop raise; not much is. My goal is to either raise the turn with the better hand or raise the turn to charge a draw (if a blank falls).

A blank did not fall on the turn, which made the hand difficult...

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