B&M hand QQ

[holdemfan]

I just got in from a good night at the local B&M 10/20 game.
Had one hand that stuck out. I would like to get some thoughts on the play.
Table is slightly loose although this hand had more in than normal 4 or 5.
Im BB With QQ. 5 limpers including SB. I know that a raise will not eliminate more than one or if lucky 2 and it will only give drawing hands more reason to stay and alert others of my holding. I check.

<font color="blue">6SB 6players </font>
Flop K,X,Q
SB ck, I know someone will bet the K Q or draw so I ck. It goes to MP who will not bet unless he has a good piece, he bets. B fold, SB fold I raise, UTG fold EP calls.
<font color="blue">6BB 3 players </font>
Turn is a rag making a rainbow. I bet, EP folds, MP calls.
<font color="blue">8 BB 2players </font>
River K. I bet, MP raises, I 3 bet, MP 4 bet I slow down and call.
I will post the results after your thoughts.

[shadow29]

Raise PF. You must do this. ALWAYS.

Isn't 4-bets a cap? Or are there unlimited raises headsup? Reads on MP? I 5-bet, call a 6-bet, prolly.

[the_rookie]

Raise PF. Call the bet on the flop, and check-raise the turn. Raise at every opportunity on the river, I can't believe villian has a boat. He most likely has trips.

[davelin]

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I know that a raise will not eliminate more than one or if lucky 2

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You have QQ, you raise and WANT them to call.

[holdemfan]

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Isn't 4-bets a cap? Or are there unlimited raises headsup? Reads on MP? I 5-bet, call a 6-bet, prolly.

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You can keep going HU untill your all in.

[The13atman]

Any reads on MP's preflop play? Would he limp with KQ? Unless he's super tight-passive I play it the same. If he would limp with KQ and would just call the turn w/ top 2 I would think about maybe, MAYBE calling the river raise. At this limit river raises usually mean the nuts or damn close. On PP 0.5/1, I definitely 3 bet the river. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Hell, here I probably would too, regardless of reads, I dunno. OK, I guess this post has little value... [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[Shillx]

For those who might not know much about live play, a lot of live 10/20 games play like online 2/4 or 3/6 games. Of course, some play much tighter then that.

This is the HEPFAP mentality PF. Come on dude raise this one preflop. I might check/raise this flop even after I raise preflop but I might just lead out.

I'm going a few more bets on the river with this hand. He will surely raise you on the turn with 2 pair.

Brad

[holdemfan]

Final result:
I have a full house Qs over Ks
MP shows KQ and the K on the river gave him a full house Ks over Qs.
Yes the vote is out to have raised preflop but the winner was shocked to see my boat. He said we still would have battled on the river with his two pair because he thought I had a K and he obviously didn't care about the kicker. He planned on pulling the trigger on the river either way. Thus making my deception valid. I probaby could have taken in a few more bets on the river had it not have been another K.