Do you fear quads in this situation?

Withen · #1 12-29-2004, 06:01 PM

Should my fear of quad Q's prevent me from capping every round here? Normally I wouldn't have considered it, but I lost a boat to quads the other day.. man that pissed me off.. what do you think? With that preflop raise and cap, in retrospect I wonder if I should've kept capping. If capping was correct, though, should I have been check-raising on the flop and the turn to encourage callers? Fortunately, the callers kept calling two cold, but I think I pretty much just got lucky and most people wouldn't cold-call two on the flop OR the turn. On the other hand, the pot was already huge at that point, so who knows? Maybe I played this correctly. Thanks in advance for your comments.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP1 raises, 1 fold, MP3 calls, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, MP1 caps, MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (17 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, MP1 raises, MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero 3-bets, MP1 caps, MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (16.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, MP1 raises, MP3 folds, CO calls, Hero 3-bets, MP1 caps, CO calls, Hero calls.

River: (28.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 raises, CO folds, Hero 3-bets, MP1 caps, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 36.50 BB

smoore · #2 12-29-2004, 06:05 PM

I say ram and jam, baybeee! I guess you were a little fearful but it got capped anyway so you backed into optimal play. You're getting 3:1 on your money the WHOLE way and you're definitely winning this more than 25% of the time.

edit: I don't threebet preflop here though.

tripdad · #3 12-29-2004, 06:12 PM

if i were you, i would never worry about quads. i probably check/raise the flop for maximum value here unless MP1 is a known LAG and nobody respects his raises anyway.

cheers!

Withen · #4 12-29-2004, 06:15 PM

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edit: I don't threebet preflop here though.

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Yeah, that was a pretty close call... the raiser had a PFR of almost 20 though, which tipped the scales for me.

smoore · #5 12-29-2004, 06:19 PM

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the raiser had a PFR of almost 20 though,

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Then I also rammerjammer. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

esspo · #6 12-29-2004, 06:22 PM

I check call the river. I don't worry about quads. I worry about QT.

bisonbison · #7 12-29-2004, 06:24 PM

why did you bet the flop?

Withen · #8 12-29-2004, 06:26 PM

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I check call the river. I don't worry about quads. I worry about QT.

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QT was the other hand that beat me, but I didn't see QT capping preflop... although with a PFR of 20, I suppose that is possible.

Withen · #9 12-29-2004, 06:30 PM

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why did you bet the flop?

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Yeah, see, I'm not sure. For value? I'm really not sure what the proper play here is.. check-raise?

River2Pair · #10 12-29-2004, 06:39 PM

Would he really face the field with two cold with quads? Whomever won the hand sure got lucky to get all those cold calls.