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| I am a CHEATER if I goad someone to call an all-in bet. |
   
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23 | 28.40% |
| I am simply annoying if I goad a player to call an all-in bet. |
  
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12-27-2004, 07:25 PM
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Short-stacked all-in with 52s. Correct play?
Here's the scenario.
Playing in a $10+1 Limit Sit-n-Go on PartyPoker. Down to 525 chips with blinds at 100/200 and i'm in BB with 52s with 200 in already (So I only have 325 left). 6 people still left. Everyone folds to Dealer who raises (400 now in). SB folds (500 in that's not mine and 700 total) I think for a minute using the time bank thinking that the only way to have a chance at winning this I have to gamble and I think I'm getting the odds to go all-in as long as this guy doesn't have a overpair (325 left into a pot of $1025 [700 already in and the 325 he has to call when I re-raise all-in] so I would need to be more than a 31/69 dog to make this be an incorrect play). Long story short, He calls and shows 55. I frown and I don't catch my straight/flush/trips and go out in 6th. My question is: Is this the correct play by going all-in? Or should I have saved myself the 325 and if I don't find a good SB hand I fold that (225 left) and wait until I find a hand I like in the next 4 hands? What would you do in this situation? 
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#2
12-27-2004, 09:52 PM
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Re: Short-stacked all-in with 52s. Correct play?
Fold...I think you are going to be able to pick a better hand before your next BB to push with. Basically look for Ax, a PP, 2 high cards, Kx and maybe Qx.
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12-28-2004, 12:10 AM
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Re: Short-stacked all-in with 52s. Correct play?
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Fold...I think you are going to be able to pick a better hand before your next BB to push with. Basically look for Ax, a PP, 2 high cards, Kx and maybe Qx. [/ QUOTE ] I think it is a toss up. Most of the time you will be on the wrong side of a 60:40 but if you win you will have a decent stack. If you wait, even if you win, you are just back to where you were before this started and you will have to make this exact same choice when the blinds come around to you (might be worse if they have moved up). If your hand was slightly better ( something T7s) I think calling is the right move since you are more likely to be coinfliping.
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12-28-2004, 12:42 AM
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Re: Short-stacked all-in with 52s. Correct play?
If you call and win, you're ev is .15
You fold this and your sb your ev is .035 I think you should call... but I've also come back from stacks of 200 to win it all, but I think that takes a lot more luck than if you just try to suck out this one hand.
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12-28-2004, 02:34 AM
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Re: Short-stacked all-in with 52s. Correct play?
Why no "Call and push on any flop" option?
They fold more than you'd think, even to tiny little all in bets. If the only options are all in or fold, I think you've got to go all in. citanul
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#7
12-28-2004, 04:50 AM
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Re: Short-stacked all-in with 52s. Correct play?
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Why no "Call and push on any flop" option? They fold more than you'd think, even to tiny little all in bets. If the only options are all in or fold, I think you've got to go all in. citanul [/ QUOTE ] Interesting but I don't think the stop-n-go method works in this situation. You bring up a good point though, one that I did not consider. I will have to try it the next time the same situation comes up. By the way, why would a person fold for 125 more when the pot is 1k+.
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12-28-2004, 12:43 PM
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Re: Short-stacked all-in with 52s. Correct play?
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[ QUOTE ] Why no "Call and push on any flop" option? They fold more than you'd think, even to tiny little all in bets. If the only options are all in or fold, I think you've got to go all in. citanul [/ QUOTE ] Interesting but I don't think the stop-n-go method works in this situation. You bring up a good point though, one that I did not consider. I will have to try it the next time the same situation comes up. By the way, why would a person fold for 125 more when the pot is 1k+. [/ QUOTE ] It happens more than you would think....fish think "I didn't hit the flop at all, he is going all-in, so he must have something!!"
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12-28-2004, 01:04 PM
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Re: Short-stacked all-in with 52s. Correct play?
I think the only bad play here is a call. The push is fine a fold wouldn't be terrible. A side benefit I've noticed is that when you call with these hands and survive you get less villains trying to steal from you on the later rounds. At least it seems that way at times.
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