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Old 12-25-2004, 05:16 PM
Kenshin Kenshin is offline
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Default Should I be wearing a skirt?

I recently arrived at this table and have no information on either of my opponents. Did my cowardice show toO much in this hand?

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds, BB calls.

River: (9.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: 10.75 BB
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Old 12-25-2004, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: Should I be wearing a skirt?

I don't know if I raise the turn, but I am calling down.
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Old 12-25-2004, 05:31 PM
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What on earth possessed you into folding?
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Old 12-25-2004, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: Yes

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What on earth possessed you into folding?

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Dude kept betting into me. Other dude kept calling. If he does not have an Ace, what other hand do you think he has JJ, QQ? Also, I had cally McCall (unknown at the time) acting behind me
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Old 12-25-2004, 05:34 PM
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If you have QQ in his situation, do you check fold the turn to the Ace?
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Old 12-25-2004, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: Should I be wearing a skirt?

UTG probably has 88, here. If he checks calls the flop then leads on the turn then I'd say he probably has an Ace. Would anyone fold if UTG had done this?
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Old 12-25-2004, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: Yes

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If you have QQ in his situation, do you check fold the turn to the Ace?

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No, but I wouldn't pull a stop-n-go. I'd 3-bet the flop and slow down to the ace. This guy's line looks more like AK/AQ.

But yeah, I'd call the turn and call the river but be tempted to raise it.
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Old 12-25-2004, 05:42 PM
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I do not see how you can put him on a middle pair. Not only did he raise from EP preflop but also led into me on the flop and the turn. Until someone convinces me to the contrary, I do not think that I misplayed it.

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Old 12-25-2004, 05:44 PM
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If you have QQ in his situation, do you check fold the turn to the Ace?

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No, but I wouldn't pull a stop-n-go. I'd 3-bet the flop and slow down to the ace. This guy's line looks more like AK/AQ.

But yeah, I'd call the turn and call the river but be tempted to raise it.

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I agree, but who knows what those 2/4 party players are thinking sometimes. That's why I calldown.
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Old 12-25-2004, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: Should I be wearing a skirt?

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I do not see how you can put him on a middle pair. Not only did he raise from EP preflop but also led into me on the flop and the turn. Until someone convinces me to the contrary, I do not think that I misplayed it.

Kenshin

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You talk about your own cowardice and how you should wear a skirt, and then say you don't think you misplayed it.

FWIW, some TAGs play TT and JJ exactly this way, and fold to a raise on the turn. But I would play AK and AQ this way, so it's hard to define his hand. (As I said, it's the stop-n-go that makes me think he doesn't have a pair). Call it down.
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