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Old 12-22-2004, 11:55 PM
lorinda lorinda is offline
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Default $33 Hand.

Just a hand to throw out there for discussion.

I was quite pleased with my play in this hand, but I'm sure some will hate it.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter

UTG (t1910)
UTG+1 (t930)
MP1 (t770)
MP2 (t410)
MP3 (t775)
Hero (t855)
Button (t860)
SB (t715)
BB (t775)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls t15, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Hero calls t15, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t60</font>, BB folds, MP1 calls t45, Hero calls t45.

Flop: (t195) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t80</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t160</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t655 (All-In)</font>, Hero


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Old 12-23-2004, 12:44 AM
BobK BobK is offline
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Default Re: $33 Hand.

Easy fold from my point of view. He doesn't believe you have a six and he very likely has a pair like jacks or tens and doesn't want an overcard to come down. It's early, I'll wait for a better situation.
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Old 12-23-2004, 03:26 AM
soko soko is offline
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Default Re: $33 Hand.

I agree, easy fold. if he has a 2 or two overcards he will still win 20% of the time, that's too big of a gamble this early in the tournament, and that is of course assuming he doesnt have a 6 or a higher pocket pair which he will some of the time. Winning a hand like this once will make you feel good but come across the same situation 5 more times and you will be losing more than winning.
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Old 12-23-2004, 03:45 AM
Irieguy Irieguy is offline
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Default Re: $33 Hand.

I fold to the preflop raise in level 1 with medium PP. But if not, I would fold postflop. If there was no preflop raise and the same action occurred on the flop, then it's a different story.

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Old 12-23-2004, 04:16 AM
raptor517 raptor517 is offline
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Default Re: $33 Hand.

wow. i would definitely get out. i wouldnt even think of raising, as he could have 99 or better VERY easily. you must think about what someone is willing to REraise all in with. not raise. REraise. that should signal something.
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Old 12-23-2004, 04:16 AM
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Default Re: $33 Hand.

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I fold to the preflop raise in level 1 with medium PP.

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How come, Irie? Lorinda has position in the hand, and by the time the action gets around to her she's getting 3.3:1 immediate odds to call for a reasonable 5% of her stack. Seems like an easy call to me.
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Old 12-23-2004, 04:35 AM
soko soko is offline
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ilya, probally to avoid situations like this.
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Old 12-23-2004, 04:37 AM
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Default Re: $33 Hand.

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ilya, probally to avoid situations like this.

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I think you can plan to fold on the flop no-matter-what unless you hit your set, and still call preflop profitably.
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Old 12-23-2004, 04:39 AM
soko soko is offline
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Sure, that is your opinion just like what he said was his opinion. He never criticized her play just said how he would have played it.
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Old 12-23-2004, 04:41 AM
raptor517 raptor517 is offline
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Default Re: $33 Hand.

in a 30+3 i will call a small raise with 88 because i know that enough people will go all in with TPTK or even overcards. so i figure if i hit my set i will double up about 80% of the time. so the call is fine, no set no bet though. anything higher i conserve every single chip and wont ever call a raise in the first 2 rounds.
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