What will happen to vintage Paulson?

Doctor Jay · #1 12-20-2004, 12:04 PM

Check out the Paulson re-release of the James Bond chip:

http://www.dice702.com/paulsonpokerchips.htm

What will this do to the prices of the original Bond's and other Paulson chips? I'm not a big fan of the "paulson chips" mold, but could get used to it for a decent price. Also, what do you guys think of the edge marks? Is this the beginning of better days in the home chip market?

P.S. Glad I barely missed overpaying for old Bond's on ebay yesterday!!!

Slow Play Ray · #2 12-20-2004, 12:26 PM

NICE design choice! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

As for your question - it will drive the prices down something to true collectors...but I would wager that 95% of people that overpay for these chips are actually buying them for use...so I would expect the prices to level back out pretty quickly as word gets out these are available.

I like 'em...I definitely like 'em. Hmmmmm.........

MeridianFC · #3 12-20-2004, 03:02 PM

It looks pretty much like the old Paulson home game chip, though they've made all the edge spots 4 doubles and altered the coloring on the blue chip (it used to be dark blue with a single teal/turquoise spot X4).

The Paulson Chip mold doesn't really bother me.

As for what it'll do to the "vintage" Paulson I don't know. I have 1K now. $2/chip anyone? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Doctor Jay · #4 12-20-2004, 07:09 PM

Here's are the Paulson's from trademark.com:

http://www.trademarkpoker.com/paulson.asp

100,000 minimum custom order and you can't even customize the base color or edge marks!!! WTF? Any dream of a customizable Paulson anytime soon is now crap. Think about it... "Well, we need a 100,000 chip order just to change our beautiful inlay to your own. Maybe at 1,000,000 chips we'll think about letting you change an edge spot. In the meantime, we'll be taking your 1.25$ per chip" I guess it's chipco time.

warewulf · #5 12-20-2004, 07:41 PM

I think they will have to change those policies soon. I wont order anything with that mold, others have said the same. They'll probably get some orders, but I wouldn't think ANY design would sell well with that mold. Especially since ALL will have to use the exact same colors. How boring!

Slow Play Ray · #6 12-20-2004, 08:04 PM

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Here's are the Paulson's from trademark.com:

http://www.trademarkpoker.com/paulson.asp

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People are going to buy these by the droves. I kind of like the generic nature of the set, but the top hat and cane background on the inlay is just a TAD bit overkill on the self-promotion...hats off to the marketing folks at GPI though - they sure know how to capitalize.

TenPercenter · #7 12-20-2004, 08:38 PM

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Here's are the Paulson's from trademark.com:

http://www.trademarkpoker.com/paulson.asp

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People are going to buy these by the droves. ...hats off to the marketing folks at GPI though - they sure know how to capitalize.

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Agreed. None of us "regulars" would dream of buying a set of 11.5g chips, yet people buy kajillions of them. These Paulsons will sell.

Ten

Johnny5 · #8 12-21-2004, 01:53 PM

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hats off to the marketing folks at GPI

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"Hats off" Is that a request? What about the canes?

Personally, I think GPI are a bunch of morons. This is the best stuff then can come up with? Come on. If they can't see the market potential for real Paulson chips (especially customizable ones like they used to offer), then their marketing needs to wake the [Censored] up.

J5

100,000 minimum order - (250,000) for best volume pricing - WTF? How many CASINOS are buying this many chips - Seriously?

Slow Play Ray · #9 12-21-2004, 03:01 PM

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hats off to the marketing folks at GPI

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"Hats off" Is that a request? What about the canes?

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heh.

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Personally, I think GPI are a bunch of morons. This is the best stuff then can come up with? Come on. If they can't see the market potential for real Paulson chips (especially customizable ones like they used to offer), then their marketing needs to wake the [Censored] up.

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I think you're having trouble visualizing the MINISCULE population of chip buyers we represent. I can't even begin to count the number of times I've heard someone talking about these "awesome new poker chips" they bought, which turn out to be plastic dice or suits. As soon as word gets out, these new Paulsons are going to blow these people's minds. So, I am not saying GPI's marketing did a good job of making a product for us (the "informed"), I am saying they did a good job of marketing to everyone else (the "uninformed"), and they are going to make some serious loot for the company by doing so. It's all about money, don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise! And in that sense, they did a hell of a job...

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100,000 minimum order - (250,000) for best volume pricing - WTF? How many CASINOS are buying this many chips - Seriously?

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Most of my casino experience is at Foxwoods, but I can tell you they probably have ~1,000-2,000 chips at every table, and there are TONS of tables - probably 100+ poker tables alone. I can't even imagine how many more chips they have in the cages. 250,000 does not seem like that many chips to me...

Johnny5 · #10 12-21-2004, 03:27 PM

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I think you're having trouble visualizing the MINISCULE population of chip buyers we represent.

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Thanks, but I think I may be able to grasp the concepts at play here. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Sorry, but I disagree with just about everything you are saying. What has GPI done to market these? We only know about them because we scour the internet in search of real chips (ie. Paulsons, Chipcos etc...), and because some decent retailers are demanding them to fill the void. The average person you speak of, with their 11.5 gram dice/suited chips are not going to buy the Paulsons at $1+/chip when they can get entire sets of the 'awesome' cheap ones for $40. Also, if the informed chip buyers represent such small numbers, why did the cost of Paulsons triple to over $2/chip during the past year and a half? Its called demand.

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So, I am not saying GPI's marketing did a good job of making a product for us (the "informed"), I am saying they did a good job of marketing to everyone else (the "uninformed"), and they are going to make some serious loot for the company by doing so. It's all about money, don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise! And in that sense, they did a hell of a job...

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In case you didn't know, Paulson selling chips to the public is not a new thing. They cut off the supply for 2 years, but they used to offer custom chips, (all kinds of edgespots/colors/inlay sizes etc...) for much less than any supplier is currently doing.

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Most of my casino experience is at Foxwoods, but I can tell you they probably have ~1,000-2,000 chips at every table, and there are TONS of tables - probably 100+ poker table alone. I can't even imagine how many more chips they have in the cages. 250,000 does not seem like that many chips to me...

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Oh - Foxwoods, you mean the LARGEST CASINO IN THE WORLD?? Sorry, but this casino does not represent the average casino.

J5