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Lenin 2 5.41%
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Old 12-16-2004, 08:48 PM
partygirluk partygirluk is offline
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Default Folded AK preflop. Thoughts?

4 table shootout in London. Top two from each table qualify for the final table and £s. 3rd hand in, I pick up AKo UTG. Blinds are 25/25 and everyone has about a Grand in chips. I make it 100 to go. Some guy I have never seen before in my life raises to 500. I folded. Now I am not so sure, perhaps I was weak tight.

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Old 12-16-2004, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: Folded AK preflop. Thoughts?

Ugh.

That's not a fun one.
I think you have to put him on a pair, probably something like JJ and he really doesn't want to see a flop fearing overcards. He may also have AK and not know how to play it.

You have to either push or fold, calling off 1/2 your stack hoping to hit the flop is ludicrious.

Given that you are probably a slight dog, have basically 0 folding equity (seems pretty pot commited to me) and that you still have 900 chips with the blinds at 25/25, I'd probably fold it too.

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Old 12-16-2004, 09:44 PM
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Default Re: Folded AK preflop. Thoughts?

I would fold...

did you see that zaxx?
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Old 12-16-2004, 11:40 PM
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Default Re: Folded AK preflop. Thoughts?

I will slap the loose aggressiveness right out of...ooops already did!!! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] EASY Muck IF you are anywhere near avg or better than avg compared to the other players. He might have JJ or QQ...then again he might have KK AA or AKs. Im not inclined to find out on the 3rd hand with no reads personally.
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Old 12-16-2004, 11:50 PM
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Default Re: Folded AK preflop. Thoughts?

You give your opponents a lot of credit. I have not played much live. Perhaps others can answer better. However, I fear that he could have been doing this with an AQ or AJ. Not everyone is a smart, educated poker player. He might not be thinking

"This dude open raised UTG, he must have a premium hand".

In fact, given that he has never seen me before, that might be a valid assumption.
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Old 12-17-2004, 12:22 AM
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Default Why, Sossman?

Why would you fold that Sossman, rather than push? Tx.
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Old 12-17-2004, 12:30 AM
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Default Re: Folded AK preflop. Thoughts?

If you are more concerned with laying down what MIGHT BE the best hand early in a tourney rather than with ultimately winning the tournament then I sincerly believe you will have a negative EV in tourney play. Just my 2 cents Im no world beater myself.

FYI- I move in without a 2nd thought with KK regardless of what other players do here. So im not THAT weak tight.
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Old 12-17-2004, 01:05 AM
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Default Re: Folded AK preflop. Thoughts?

He's representing KK-JJ with an outside shot at aces or another AK. He might be a LAG or a complete maniac and actually holding a middle pair or K4o...but with no read you can't push, and even a 'mere' LAG is ahead of you.

This is a fold.
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Old 12-17-2004, 01:16 AM
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Default Re: Folded AK preflop. Thoughts?

I would fold and never play this tournament again. How can you start off with a 40-blind stack? Unless the levels are INCREDIBLY slow, or you have some reason other than profit in mind when playing, I would just find another tournament.

But yeah, that situation sucks and you just have to fold it.
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Old 12-17-2004, 06:58 AM
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Default Re: Folded AK preflop. Thoughts?

JaBlue makes the best point of the entire thread.

Oh, yeah, fold.
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