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Old 12-14-2004, 04:23 AM
whitelime whitelime is offline
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Default 15/30 PP... Value Bet This River?

i have AcKs from EP and open raise. A guy in middle position 3 bets, and a guy after him caps it. 3 to the flop of Kc9s7s. I bet, they both call. Turn 8s. I bet, they call. River 6c. Board now reads Kc9s7s8s6c. Do you bet this?

3 bettor preflop has vpip of 40%/pfr of 17%...no stats on the capper
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Old 12-14-2004, 04:28 AM
Blake Lovely Blake Lovely is offline
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Default Re: 15/30 PP... Value Bet This River?

yes, generally bet it.
What hands 3bet and cap that complete the straight?

What hands worse than AK call the river bet?
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Old 12-14-2004, 04:34 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 PP... Value Bet This River?

The way the hand played out, I think I can rule out AK, KK or AA, as I would've likely seen a raise by the turn. The only logical hands I can put the other two on are QQ-TT so TT is the hand I'm scared of. Keep in mind this is Partypoker so some guy could easily have QT or JT or some other random T.
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Old 12-14-2004, 04:38 AM
Blake Lovely Blake Lovely is offline
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Default Re: 15/30 PP... Value Bet This River?

I agree 10-10 is main fear, also a set.

but KQ and KJ will pay you off, A9s will pay you off. QQ, and JJ

I think backing off here can loose you bets in the long run, especially since most weaker hands wont bet it for you, a 4 straight freezes people up.

thus a set may not raise you, and that is a good thing.
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Old 12-14-2004, 06:00 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 PP... Value Bet This River?

you really think at the party 15 someone has a set and didn't raise that flop/turn?
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Old 12-14-2004, 07:43 AM
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maroonlime1 shows [ Ac, Ks ] a pair of kings.
leadrunner doesn't show [ Qh, As ] high card ace.
Bisquiteater doesn't show [ 2d, 2s ] a pair of twos.
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