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Old 12-10-2004, 07:11 PM
TheLance TheLance is offline
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Default KK, KAA flop, 5 call down.

... I don't think this was covered in SSH...

Paradise Poker 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed)

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (12.40 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.
(wishing I had a read on button, but I got nothing)

Turn: (11.20 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

River: (16.20 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 28.20 BB

Is there a gas leak in this virtual card room?
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Old 12-10-2004, 07:18 PM
Shillx Shillx is offline
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Default Re: KK, KAA flop, 5 call down.

Why didn't you keep putting in bets on the flop? Only 2 hands beat you right now, and there are lots of dead draws out there right now that will call bets on the flop (hearts and gutshots). Same thing applies to the turn. There are 5 players and you let it go through for just one bet when you almost surely have the best hand...

Brad
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Old 12-10-2004, 07:23 PM
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Default Re: KK, KAA flop, 5 call down.

and the two hands that do beat you would have 3-bet preflop (one would hope)
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Old 12-10-2004, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: KK, KAA flop, 5 call down.

AK, AA, A9, A2
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Old 12-10-2004, 07:34 PM
kgrad5 kgrad5 is offline
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Default Re: KK, KAA flop, 5 call down.

[ QUOTE ]
AK, AA, A9, A2

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he was talking about the flop.. only 2 hands beat him on the flop.. AK and AA (1 combination of each only)
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Old 12-10-2004, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: KK, KAA flop, 5 call down.

roger, my bad
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Old 12-10-2004, 07:30 PM
Piiop Piiop is offline
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Default Re: KK, KAA flop, 5 call down.

You know you have a full house, right?

You forgot to reraise the flop and you forgot to bet the turn.
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Old 12-10-2004, 07:58 PM
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Default Raise! Raise! Raise!

This looks like one of those hands where you have to put as much money as possible into the pot, got scared, and lost anyway. Otherwise, you wouldn't be wondering whether you played it right or not, because if you did win you'd know that should've been more aggressive.
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Old 12-10-2004, 10:06 PM
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Default Re: KK, KAA flop, 5 call down.

Your "bet/raise" button should have been checked the whole time, unless of course it gets capped when you can only call, thats the only time its ok to just call
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Old 12-10-2004, 11:29 PM
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Default Re: KK, KAA flop, 5 call down.

Ok, I'll try again:
You calling and not raising is like you having
K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and the flop coming
K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and the turn coming Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and you fearing the royal flush so you just call down to any aggression.

Clearly not quite as bad, but close [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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