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Old 12-10-2004, 04:23 PM
SofaCoach SofaCoach is offline
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Default When should I fold this TPGK?

My opponent in this hand seemed to be pretty tight and played reasonably. At several points in the hand I suspected she had an overpair and felt I should fold, then came all the spades, but still could make myself fold for "one bet". which turned into another and another...

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB
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Old 12-10-2004, 04:29 PM
wuwei wuwei is offline
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Default Re: When should I fold this TPGK?

If you had open raised instead of open limping preflop, this hand would have probably played out easier.

If your read on the opponent is tight and reasonable, I would fold when she bets the turn.
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Old 12-10-2004, 04:30 PM
Fat Nicky Fat Nicky is offline
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Default Re: When should I fold this TPGK?

Raise pre-flop.

On the flop, 3-bet.
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Old 12-10-2004, 04:42 PM
SofaCoach SofaCoach is offline
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Default Re: When should I fold this TPGK?

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Raise pre-flop.

On the flop, 3-bet.

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Yes, immediately after I did wish I 3-bet that flop. But I never really considered raising KQo from MP. Although this hand was HU immediately the table had not been playing this tight.
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Old 12-10-2004, 04:55 PM
SamIAm SamIAm is offline
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Default Re: When should I fold this TPGK?

If it's folded around to you in middle position with KQo, you gotta raise that. You're the first in? Raise it up.

I think you have to 3-bet the flop, too. If she calls the 3-bet, you want to bet-out on the turn unless a scare-card comes.

Oops, then a scare-card comes. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] The way you played the flop, I'd fold when she bets into me on the turn.

I'd DEFINITELY fold on the river. It's pretty clear to me she has a high spade. Even if she doesn't, she could STILL be beating your TPGK. (We can debate whether the G stands for "good" or "great".)
-Sam
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Old 12-10-2004, 06:57 PM
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Default Re: When should I fold this TPGK?

If you were taking this line why not bet out on the river? If your opponent does have an overpair there's a 50% chance its not a spade and you might get a better hand to fold. Im not sure if your read pertains to post flop play:

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My opponent in this hand seemed to be pretty tight

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but this player might be convinced to fold to a river bet.
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