How bad do you hate my flop play?

BusterStacks · #1 12-10-2004, 03:14 PM

I dunno, it's pretty fishy, but...

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls, MP3 raises, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (18 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, Hero calls, MP3 raises, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 3-bets, MP1 calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls, Button calls, BB calls.

Turn: (18 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets, MP1 calls, Hero raises, MP3 folds, Button calls, BB 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, Hero calls, Button calls.

River: (31 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, Button folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 37 BB

Joe Tall · #2 12-10-2004, 03:24 PM

I think you turn raise sucks. I'll let others elaborate.

Peace,
Joe Tall

WDC · #3 12-10-2004, 03:25 PM

pretty bad

ni han sir

mantasm · #4 12-10-2004, 03:27 PM

yeah party 5/10 is a rock garden

ErrantNight · #5 12-10-2004, 03:31 PM

i agree with JT. your turn play is worse.

you've picked up all sorts of outs, but you're still drawing. you don't want to force people out of this hand, and you certainly don't want to encourage 3-betting behind you (say, MP3?).

3-bet back to you on the flop is tough... but you hafta assume MP3, button, and BB are coming along for one more, and MP1 makes it easier in front of you... that said this could be capped behind you and it could push out someone else.

still, to reiterate, that turn raise just sucks.

BusterStacks · #6 12-10-2004, 03:33 PM

ok.

Fat Nicky · #7 12-10-2004, 03:37 PM

With the PF raiser right behind me, i'm folding the flop.

I don't see why you would raise the turn when everyone else is betting your draw for you.

Joe Tall · #8 12-10-2004, 03:40 PM

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you've picked up all sorts of outs, but you're still drawing. you don't want to force people out of this hand, and you certainly don't want to encourage 3-betting behind you (say, MP3?)......that turn raise just sucks.

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Ding ding ding!

3-bet back to you on the flop is tough

It's close put even playing 2 bets he's getting ~15:1+ or something like that.

Added: It's the first flop call that sucks more, even at 20:1.

Peace,
Joe Tall

Evan · #9 12-10-2004, 03:40 PM

Both your flop and turn plays are bad to quite bad IMO. Would you mind sharing your reasoning behind them?

DeezNutz3 · #10 12-10-2004, 03:40 PM

What was your line of thinking on the flop? I can't seem to figure it out.