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Old 12-09-2004, 10:44 AM
bds bds is offline
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Default Large PP with A on Flop

These are among the hardest hands for me to play, and I think that one of my leaks is staying in too long when I think I am beat. Not sure though, so I'd like advise please.

Party $5/10 6 handed

MP and BB are both loose passive players

Hero us UTG and open raises with QQ.
MP calls 2 cold; BB calls.

Flop 4A2 (2 clubs). BB checks, I bet, MP raises, BB calls.

Turn is J (not club). BB checks, I check, MP bets. I fold.
(Thought one of them had an A for sure and that my only out was a Queen on the river and didn’t think I was getting odds to look for one of the 2 remaining queens – so I folded.)

River – you guessed it – Queen.

MP bets, BB raises, MP calls.

These type of situations come up often – high pocket pair and A on flop. I am usually more worried when it is an ace on the flop, because more people play ace anything. My questions – should I have folded the turn and how would you modify my play otherwise? I think, usually, I am beat here with a raise on the flop by a passive player and with another player calling the flop both the flop bet and raise and then calling the turn bet.

They both had Aces, with MP showing A8 and BB showing A4.
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Old 12-09-2004, 11:25 AM
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Default Re: Large PP with A on Flop

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loose passive player
... raises

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You can fold on the flop when it's raised by a passive and cold-called back to you, I think. If you had Qc you might be justified in calling that raise and looking for a queen or a club on the turn, though probably only if the Ac is on the board.

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