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12-09-2004, 05:25 AM
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Are sets the same thing as trips?
Last night in my home game a hand came up and a guy referred to my hand (which happened to be hole cards of 44 and the flop contained a 4) as "trips". I explained to him that it was a set, and therefore much more valuable. I proceeded to get laughed off the table after attempting to explain a concept I read in Lee Jones' book. He refers to "trips" as 2 board cards matching your hole card and a "set" is your two hole cards matching a board card, the latter being much more valuable because it is so well hidden. At any rate, next time I'll just keep my mouth shut and educate them through my play instead. thanks.
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#3
12-09-2004, 05:49 AM
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Re: Are sets the same thing as trips?
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Yes. Trips=Set=3 of a kind. [/ QUOTE ] I don't agree. A 'set' usually means that you have a pair in the hole and 'trips' means that the pair is on the board. At least this is the way Ed explains it in SSH and as the original poster points out also the way that Lee Jones uses it in his book.
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#5
12-09-2004, 09:16 AM
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Re: Are sets the same thing as trips?
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Set = using both hole cards. Trips = using one hole card. [/ QUOTE ] Exactly. And as a result, sets are usually more valuable than trips. I'll take a set over trips any day! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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#6
12-09-2004, 11:36 AM
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Re: Are sets the same thing as trips?
A set is more valuable than trips. Of course, as a "rank" in poker they are both "3 of a kind" - 3 of a kind beats a lot of things.
The thing that gives a set it's value is that 1) it's hidden from the other players and 2) if the board pairs, your full house is likely the best (unless there was a higher set out there, in which case you're screwed). When the board pairs players tend to slow down, so you'll often get less action on trips. On a side note, it's really not a good idea to educate at the table. Regards, T
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#7
12-09-2004, 11:49 AM
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Re: Are sets the same thing as trips?
I hear people misuse this all the time -- "I made a set of aces when two of them flopped!" Usually I try to gently "play dumb" a bit and say something like, "I thought a set was when you had two in your hand?" But usually the person self-assuredly repeats their earlier mistake so I probably shouldn't even bother.
FWIW someone told me the "set" terminology came from gin rummy?
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#8
12-09-2004, 12:20 PM
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Re: Are sets the same thing as trips?
I was playing in a casino a couple weeks ago. Players and even the dealers were using "set" when they meant trips. I just kept my trap shut.
Regards, T
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#9
12-09-2004, 05:53 PM
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Re: Are sets the same thing as trips?
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Set = using both hole cards. Trips = using one hole card. [/ QUOTE ] Theory of Poker by Sklansky, page 290: Set: Three-of-a-kind. The term is used particularly in hold'em. Hold'em Poker for Advanced Players by Sklansky and Malmuth, page 322: Set: Three-of-a-kind. Play Poker Like the Pros by Hellmuth, page380: SET (N): Three of a kind. Super System by Doyle Brunson, page 546: SET A term used to describe Trips or Fours (four of a kind), as in a set of trips.
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#10
12-09-2004, 06:31 PM
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Re: Are sets the same thing as trips?
Only one of your examples is actually what they are talking about-
Super System... and it's wrong in that aspect. Of course a set is three-of-a-kind, but it's not "TRIPS" SSHE- "SET: Three-of-a-kind made using a pair in your hand and a matching third card on the board." "TRIPS: Three-of-a-kind made using a pair on board and a matching third card in your hand" This one you are wrong about... sorry. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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