An odd one

sfer · #1 12-08-2004, 08:37 PM

Live 4/8. 4 limpers to me in the CO with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and I raise. BB calls and the limpers call.

6 to the flop for 12.5 SBs. Flop is 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Checked around.

Turn is another 8. Checked to the player on my immediate right, a waaay bad, waaay loose, erratic player who bets. I raise, folded to an EP erratic gambooler who 3-bets, we both fold.

Meh.

Spicymoose · #2 12-08-2004, 08:44 PM

You have 6 outs against a non 8. About 7 times you will pay that extra bet and get lose 1 BB. 1 time you will hit your A or Q and win about 13 BB. Very occasionally you will hit your A or Q, he will have an 8, and you will lose a total of 2 bets. I think this is a call.

James282 · #3 12-08-2004, 08:52 PM

I have no clue why you didn't bet the flop.
-James

Tosh · #4 12-08-2004, 08:56 PM

I am certainly an advocate of checking way more flops than the average 2+2 poster seems to like to, but I think this is a sure flop bet.

BSXX · #5 12-08-2004, 09:40 PM

Have to agree that betting the flop was the proper play. You had position and no one showing strength.

With this flop, I would rather do some probing at the small bet level rather than call a big bet on the turn.

chesspain · #6 12-08-2004, 09:43 PM

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With this flop, I would rather do some probing at the small bet level rather than call a big bet on the turn.

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Do you really think that an 8 is going to checkraise the flop?

James282 · #7 12-08-2004, 09:47 PM

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With this flop, I would rather do some probing at the small bet level rather than call a big bet on the turn.

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Do you really think that an 8 is going to checkraise the flop?

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Do you really think someone has an 8?
-James

Joe Tall · #8 12-08-2004, 09:50 PM

Why didn't you bet the flop hey?

Eh,
Joe Tall

chesspain · #9 12-08-2004, 10:01 PM

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With this flop, I would rather do some probing at the small bet level rather than call a big bet on the turn.

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Do you really think that an 8 is going to checkraise the flop?

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Do you really think someone has an 8?
-James

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With five opponents in a low limit game...I have no idea. But whereas I might well bet the flop, it would not be so that I could "probe" for an 8, if that is what the initial respondant was suggesting.

Evan · #10 12-08-2004, 10:02 PM

I think the point was just that "proding" on the flop isn't really gonna tell you much. In case that wasn't the point, its now my point.

EDIT: Damnit, I was too late I guess.