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Old 12-08-2004, 02:56 AM
random random is offline
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Default Party Poker Passive Priver

SB is a little nutty. She called 4 bets with third pair a few hands before and also overcalled and paid off on the river. I hadn't seen much from UTG but I'm pretty sure he bought in for less than 750. UTG+1 is also solid as far as I could tell.

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero caps</font>, <font color="666666">4 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (17 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (14.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 18.50 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 18.50 BB, between SB, UTG, UTG+1 and Hero.</font>
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Old 12-08-2004, 03:00 AM
TazQ TazQ is offline
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Default Re: Party Poker Passive Priver

Misclick on the river?
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Old 12-08-2004, 03:09 AM
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Default Re: Party Poker Passive Priver

lemme be the first to say raise, because seriously, what were you thinking?

if 3-bet, cap
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Old 12-08-2004, 03:29 AM
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Default Re: Party Poker Passive Priver

These people are crazy.

From last night:

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (21 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls, UTG folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (16.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

River: (20.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 23.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="white">
SB has Qs Qd (two pair, queens and sixes).
MP3 has Ks Kc (two pair, kings and sixes).
Hero has As Ad (two pair, aces and sixes).
Outcome: Hero wins 23.50 BB. </font>

I know this only supports everyone's feeling that I should raise.
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Old 12-08-2004, 06:14 AM
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Default Re: Party Poker Passive Priver

how about instead of not raising this river you just walk outside and set fire to 60 dollars.
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Old 12-08-2004, 07:56 AM
William Jockusch William  Jockusch is offline
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Default Re: Party Poker Passive Priver

A couple of things about this hand take away the usual arguments about going for the overcall:

1) Given the way SB plays, she may call anyway if you raise, even when you have her beat.
2) There is already a caller. So by raising you stand to collect a bet from each of two people.
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Old 12-08-2004, 03:09 PM
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Default Re: Party Poker Passive Priver

I was thinking the same thing. I'm pretty sure she would have called two more with her A6. UTG+1 had QQ and would have called one more. I'm not sure what UTG would have done with his Jh5h.

Does no one think I could be beat here, though? Why would this guy pick the river when the flush gets there to bet? I can't put him on a flush... when I'm holding it with the A and K after he raised UTG.
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Old 12-08-2004, 03:22 PM
Grisgra Grisgra is offline
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Default Re: Party Poker Passive Priver

I like the suggestion about setting fire to $60 outside instead of passing up the river raise.

I think you hear from a flopped set or 99 a *lot* earlier than this -- and 99 probably tries to checkraise figuring someone just hit their flush.
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Old 12-08-2004, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: Party Poker Passive Priver

I think raising might actually loose a bet. The other two players overcalled the river...that's one bet more than a raise would likely acomplish. If it was 3-bet you couldn't cap...the bettor could likely have made 9's full...maybe he value betting TT or JJ, but still raising would be silly. I like the call.
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