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Old 12-05-2004, 06:03 PM
ZManODS ZManODS is offline
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Default QQ first hand of $30 sit n go

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QQ first hand of $30 sit n go. Im on the button.
MP raises to 30, MP+1 calls, I go all in.

Does this seem reasonable? I know there are many people that play these sit n gos that just LOVE to gamble the first hand.

Well as it turns out i got called by both limpers. MP1 had AJd and MP+1 had A4o!!! Of course an ace came on the flop and i lost.

Anyone else make this move here?
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Old 12-05-2004, 06:09 PM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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Default Re: QQ first hand of $30 sit n go

I don't think I'd ever bet 1000 into a 75 pot preflop.
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Old 12-05-2004, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: QQ first hand of $30 sit n go

I just call with this hand. Someone raises 3XBB and then someone else calls him?

I call and see the flop. If an Ace or K come and someone bets, I fold.

It is very early in the tourney, the blinds are very small and you have lots of chips.

I assume this is PP. Why would you bet t800 to win t75?
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Old 12-05-2004, 06:25 PM
ZManODS ZManODS is offline
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Default Re: QQ first hand of $30 sit n go

It was actually on Paradise. The only reason i bet so much was because i know people will call with trash the first few hands in a sit n go. The only hands im really afraid of are AA, KK or AK. Going by the vast number of hands that will call me in this situation is this move smart? Ive heard of the reasoning "You will only be called by better hands", but that simply is not the case in these sit n go's
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Old 12-05-2004, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: QQ first hand of $30 sit n go

First hand of the tourney I would just call the raise and see what the flop brings. If an A or K lands and I'm bet into I will drop the hand.

Too many people will play Axo for all their chips at level 1 and hope to double up and when they call your all-in and the ace lands (which it usually seems to do when I have queens...) then you are toast.

I don't want to risk my entire stack to win 75 chips on the first hand of the tournament. I call the raise and hope to get a favorable flop and THEN start raising the pot.
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Old 12-05-2004, 06:37 PM
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Default Re: QQ first hand of $30 sit n go

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First hand of the tourney I would just call the raise and see what the flop brings. If an A or K lands and I'm bet into I will drop the hand.

Too many people will play Axo for all their chips at level 1 and hope to double up and when they call your all-in and the ace lands (which it usually seems to do when I have queens...) then you are toast.

I don't want to risk my entire stack to win 75 chips on the first hand of the tournament. I call the raise and hope to get a favorable flop and THEN start raising the pot.

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Wouldn't this be an argument for pushing QQ?
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Old 12-05-2004, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: QQ first hand of $30 sit n go

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First hand of the tourney I would just call the raise and see what the flop brings. If an A or K lands and I'm bet into I will drop the hand.

Too many people will play Axo for all their chips at level 1 and hope to double up and when they call your all-in and the ace lands (which it usually seems to do when I have queens...) then you are toast.

I don't want to risk my entire stack to win 75 chips on the first hand of the tournament. I call the raise and hope to get a favorable flop and THEN start raising the pot.

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Wouldn't this be an argument for pushing QQ?

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Yep.
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Old 12-06-2004, 10:47 AM
ZManODS ZManODS is offline
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Default Re: QQ first hand of $30 sit n go

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Too many people will play Axo for all their chips at level 1 and hope to double up and when they call your all-in...

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This is what im getting at. Lets see some hands and how they would do against me.
AA or KK: its around 80%/20%
AK: im the favorite with 56%/44%
AQ: im the favorite with 70%/30%
AJ or Ax: im the favorite with around 70%/30%

Im ahead of all but AA or KK. Like you said, people will play any Ax in the first hand of a tournament. Also, if you get a good lead in these sit n go's you can easily do well.
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Old 12-05-2004, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: QQ first hand of $30 sit n go

I think you made a fine play, people will make stupid calls (like with a lone ace) early in the tourney. You got a damn good situation, but were outdrawn. Theres nothing wrong with the play.

You got all your money in on a 70/30, it's hard to say your play was terrible.
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Old 12-06-2004, 10:49 AM
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Default Re: QQ first hand of $30 sit n go

Exactly, im not trying to say this a +EV move in a cash game, but given the terrible play of most players in these sit n go's it seemed like a good play.
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